Archive for April, 2009

Mexican swine flu ‘pandemic’ – disgraceful journalism by the BBC


There is a video going around called: Swine Flu Was Cultured In A Laboratory Dr John Carlo Dallas Co Medical Director. Link here: DON’T BELIEVE THE CLAIMS MADE ABOUT IT. The video has obviously been deliberately cut to make it appear as though a slip-up has been made, yielding an unwitting confession that the virus is synthetic. That is just as disgusting as what the BBC has done. There is sufficient evidence to suggest a conspiracy here at worst, gross sloppyness and rampant commercialisation at best, but this video is definately something that needs to be binned.  

Please copy the information here. Lwtc247. I think I’ve finished the post now. Please read it. I believe it raises VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.

Once again the BBC News and Current affairs exhibits some of the most appalling journalism possible.

On Friday 24th April the BBC was reporting 60 had died…

Friday  24th April 2009:




Note: They say it began in the middle of March. That’s peculiar. As you will find out below, there are only 8 confirmed dead. If this has been going on for OVER one month already, then 8 deaths over one month from an as yet uncharacterised virus(?-see later) could surely NOT have caused alarm. Also it means that over 30 days passed where maximum of  8 confirmed cases were known, yet they reported it as over 60.


More recently, on Tuesday April 28th and Wed 29th April 150 had died…


Tuesday 28th April 2009:




Wednesday 29th April 2009:



 What on earth is Garden Broom doing revealing information about suspected swine fever cases? Well it’s obvious isn’t it really. He’s the ‘leader’ – the big reassuring, informed boss to guide us through this so called pandemic. What a guy. My hero. The same NeoLabour stinky ‘management’ [i.e. control freakery] that we’ve come so used to seeing.

150 dead from swine flu now. Given the rubbish the BBC are reporting about the numbers of dead, I wonder about the number in hospital with symptoms as reported on Tuesday.  Where did these numbers come from?

As well as reporting these definitive statements (lies by another name). Today we have this:

Friday Thurs 30th Apr 2009)




So, for at least 4 days, the BBC were reporting as FACT that large numbers of deaths had occured and now it says only 8 are confirmed to have died from it. That’s 4 WHOLE days (minimum) of peddling total fear-inducing,  incorrect rubbish. That is utterly disgraceful. A complete failure of journalist. BBC Newz (Newz, cos it certainy ain’t ‘News’) heads should be fired. No public apologies. No shame, no remorse of their slip-slop-swill.

And to make matters worse all the other supporting BS about this has gone unchecked too. Click this: to listen to this piece of presstituting.

I’ve made a VERY ROUGH transcript (Note: some bits missing) Report by Matt McGrath – BBC Science reporter.

Note: PLEASE capture this audio and save it! I’m not able to so. In addition to the stunning revelation in this audio file, there are chilling words spoken at the end by Rahm Emanuel who says things loons are familiar with – the political expediency of crises (all of which look increasingly synthesised).


Scients though believe pigs are a perfect mixing vessels for more than one type of influenze virus, being able to support the replication of human and avian flu strains aswell. All these virus’s have the ability to swap genetic material and recombine in into new forms in the right conditions. According to the CDC, that’s what’s happened in Mexico, where this new H1N1 virus has emerged from pigs and become infectious to people.

Prof Jangu Banatvala an expert on clinical virology at Kings College London (see appendix) he says that as new flu virus’s go, this one is quite unusual: “Interestingly enough, the swine virus was not a very spreadable virus – there were a few cases from time to time, but this one is rather different. The pig is a very good mixing vessel [lwtc247: duplicitious – ‘reinforcement’. The journo heard Prof. Banatvala say this before compiling his report and mantioned the word forst which ‘shows’ the Prof is agreeing with what the journo said. What a clever journo] for viruses and if you look a the genetic make up of the virus, it’s got a bit of human, 2 bits of pig virus – one from the states, one from europe, and a touch of the avian virus as well. Anyway it is spreading….. [This is DATED: BBC World Service, 11:41pm Tuesday 28th April 2009 (see later). URL:] I can think of one way in which Prof Banatvala knows the structure of this virus, and I’m sure you can too.

Comment: Yet, a BBC article by Fergus Walsh dated Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK says a UK lab is ready to analyse swine flu . Are you telling me in the space of a day Prof Jangu Banatvala managed to accumulate all this information about this virus? A man who wasn’t even sent the

Getting back to Matt McGraths’s report:

Since 1997 flu scientists have been monitoring avian influenza very carefully. that strain has killed people all over the world. Mostly those who have been in direct contact with infected birds. 

What’s worrying  What is unusual about this new swine flu is how rapidly it has aquited the ability to transfer between people. Pigs are no longer required to spread this infection. [WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF THIS?] 

Dr Mike Skinner is a virologist at Imperial College London:

Flu seems to be very well adapted at spreading between humans when it has evolved in the right way. We’ve seen H5N1 is unable to spread at the moment between humans but this flu, clearly seems to have the abilities of the normal flu we are all familiar which spreads readily each season.

Flu viruses are spread by droplets these infected secretions can travel about a metre via coughs and sneezes. The virus itself can survive for several hours on a surface such as door knob or a telephone. What it needs most of all is people and according to Dr. Francisco Moreno, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the American and British Calare hospital in Mexico, his city is an ideal environment for a new flu virus to spread.

Dr Moreno: “…”
Scientists are concerned that this new H1N1 swine virus is already showing itself to be a deadly strain. Prof High Pennington form the University of Aberdeen explains how a flu virus like this can kill:

“The virus itself can cause a very severe pneumonia and the body reacts very violently to the virus and basically the lungs fill with water and you die because you cant breathe. Or you get damage to the lungs caused by the virus which can be very severe in its own right…”

One of the most mysterious aspects of this outbreak is why it appears to be is killing people in Mexico and not elsewhere in the world. Some experts say [who? which experts?] that it could be because o the presence of other infections in those who have died or a lack of nutrition compared to people who have contracted the virus in other countries. According to Prof Paul Hunter front he School of med and health policy and practice at the Uni in East Anglia it could be the virus has change tack to ensure it spreads further. If it’s too virulent too quickly, it wont get very far.
“?The Virus can evolve, and you see this with a range of virus you get from animals. The 1st people exposed have a vey high fatality rate, but people who get infected from them, have a much lower mortality rate as the virus sort of seems to realise that actually if it wants to propagate itself, it better not kill these people and so it sort of loses its virulence as it passages through humans. And that may well explain what we’re seeing in that the way the symptoms are not as severe as the visitors to Mexico as in some of the primary cases”
But while the authorities say that around 150 people have died in Mexico as a result of this new influenza strain, tests carried out on samples from the country, at the CDC in Atlanta, have so far only confirmed only a small number of those are suffering from the same virus that has appeared in several US states.
According to Dr Francesco Moreno it may be that actually there’s more than one virus affecting people in Mexico  and that might complicate attempts to stop it.
“you may be having here in Mexico a different stereotype(??) of the strain that has been recovered(recorded?) from the US. Secondly, probably some of the  cases treated when the patients was a very severe deal and the response to anti-virals when the patient has had the disease for more than 72 hours is not as good as if used … right away.
The fact that most of the victims of this swine flue have been young people is troubling for scientists/ Its an irony of very dangerous outbreaks of flu, that the young and the healthy are the ones who succumb first. This is because The virus turns your immune system against you, and The stronger you are the quicker you can die. As well as its potential virulence scientists are also concerned that this infection has spread far enough and wide enough to speak a global pandemic. Dr. Mike Skinner of Imperial College London  says while the new strain of sewing flue cannot be contained it can be dealt with.
“Were beyond the containment one can hope to slow it down, the spread, but we probably would never stop it spreading around the world effectively, its hard to see how we would be able to do that but we can slow it down and give authorities time to handle it. If indeed it does turn out to be a true pandemic threat.”


However the years of preparation and observation caused by worries over avian influenza, have not been wasted. Monitoring systems in many parts of the world have been upgraded and plans to deal with pandemic outbreaks have been developed and rehearsed. 


[Contradicts nutrition problem mentioned earlier in Mexico.]

Crucially though many countries have stockpiled doses of anti-viral medications, such as tamiflu and rolenza(?). Both of these have been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak. Professor sir Hu Pennington again:

“Tamiflu works against this virus which is one very good piece of news. We’ve [‘We’ ? does that mean Pennington was instrumental in making Tamiflu? If so is he on royalties, and if so why are the BBC allowing this free advertising?] never really tried it on a large scale so we’ll have to see how well it works, but at least we have something which works well against the virus which in previous pandemics we didn’t have so we have an advantage, a big advantage over previous pandemics.”

The world has had 4 viral pandemics over the last 100 years, including SARS in 2003 and scientific experts say we are overdue another. But whether this new swine flu outbreak becomes a global disease with the potential to infect millions remains to be seen. We have better monitoring and action plans and effective drugs. However the best weapon against a deadly virus is a new vaccine. That will take at least 6 months to deliver (!!! – Horrifying. LONG CLINICAL TRIALS bypassed!) in that time lag a pandemic virus could have a deadly impact all over the world.

Rahm Emanuel:

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. What I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”










1) How does Prof Banatvala know the detailed structure of this virus? This is a VERY significant question. The report saying UK labs were expecting samples to analyse was published only ONE DAY before Banatvala detailed description of the virus.

2) Pennington says Tamiflu works against THIS virus. How does he know? Were are the results the tests of Tamiflu with THIS virus. This could mean they had access to that virus before last month. This is also a freightening question? If the explanation isn’t the sinister one, he is still talking absolute rubbish as there is no quantified scientific data about how good Tamiflu is. And in fact, I looked up what the FDA said about Tamiflu. The FDA specifically says this:

“Tamiflu has not been shown to treat flu-like illnesses caused by any virus other than influenza A and B” – source

3) Why would governments stock up on tamiflu when it is only authorised to claim it trreats influenza A and B? Who has been arranging for governments to buy this? How does McGrath know governments have been doing this.

4) McGrath once again repeats what a scientist says before playing the clip of what the scientist says. Just like he did about pigs. This time, McGrath also claimed Tamiflu had been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak, yet still, no scientific study had been undertaken.

5) The BBC lied about the number of deaths and does not reveal it’s sources of important information.

Update on (We will take from you your) Labor day. 1st May 2009.

1) The BBC report by Matt McGrath has been captured. You can listen to it here.

Alex Jones’ Prison Planet hosts an article witht he title: Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes
Thursday, April 30, 2009 (URL= In the article we get this quote

“This is what we call a reassortment between two currently circulating pig flu viruses. Why it’s emerged in humans is anyone’s guess. It hasn’t been seen before in pigs, as far as I know,” – University of Edinburgh Viral Geneticist Andrew Rambaut….The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) harvested the viral samples, and then made the genome sequence available to a number of research teams around the world, under what was known as an international database of flu genomes. Though Wired could not obtain an immediate response from the American authorities, documents released by the agency to scientists seem to confirm the suspicions that the lethal strain is actually made up entirely of pig genes, without any other additions…”The experts said that the two strains involved in the new pathogen were the North American and the European pig flu”

That sounds very similar to what Prof Banatvala was saying. BUT Prof Banatvala said it also contained avian and human genetic information. It seems very unlikely therefore that the Prof was getting his data from the centre that mapped out the swine fever genome. So we must still ask: What info does/did the prof have that made him say it contianed human and avian flu? Where did it come from? And what does it mean? If the ‘expert in clinical virology’ Prof Banatvala is correct,  HOW did human genes get into the pig? How did bird flu get into the pig? It is not unreasonable to suggest they were DELIBERATELY put them there. After all, the ‘experts’ have told us pigs are excellent ‘mixing labs’ for hybrid virus’s . It is not surprosing that the story has evolved to talk down the presence of human and bird flu in this new H1N1. That is typical of a conspiracy.

This article: Swine flu source spawns wild theories, Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:27pm EDT (URL= reports Paul Yeo, a virologist at Durham University in Britain, saying on Thursday (30th April 2009):

The problem now with this virus is that it has picked up a mixture of elements, now including human elements. It’s a complex virus.”

and  the New Scientist’s biology editor Michael Le Page wrote in the same article:

“The claim of the conspiracy theorists is that this new combination could not have occurred naturally, but this is not true,”

“Flu viruses consisting of a mixture of human, swine and bird strains have been found before.”

Clearly some DISINFORMATION is abound.



 1) Professor Jangu Banatvala CBE MA MD FRCP FRCPath FMedSci [Chairman]
Emeritus Professor of Clinical Virology
Guy’s, King’s & St.Thomas’ School of Medicine


Page last updated at 15:42 GMT, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK
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 UK lab ready to analyse swine flu
By Fergus Walsh 
Quote: In a high level containment lab, UK scientists are getting ready to receive live samples of swine flu, which they intend to analyse in the hope of combating this disease.

The samples will come from affected patients in California, and possibly Mexico and Spain.

The scientists at the NIMR will take different virus samples, grow them and infect laboratory ferrets with them.

Ferrets get flu in a similar way to humans and produce an immune response.

Scientists will analyse the antibodies found in the ferrets’ blood and see whether the virus is showing signs of antigenic drift – in simple terms whether it is adapting and changing as it passes from person to person.

Seasonal vaccine protection?

Swine flu is an H1N1 virus, but it seems quite distinct from the human H1N1 strain included in the current seasonal, winter vaccine.

It is unclear whether the seasonal vaccine would give any protection.

One theory is that while it might not prevent someone getting swine flu, it could lessen its effects.

Mexican Swine Flu Pandemic – serious allegations

Thanks to antireptilian for bring this to my attention.


Transcript: source:
Comment: The ‘oxysilver’ info at the end is an irrelevance to this post. In no way am I endorsing the oxysilver hydrosol treatment mentioned at the end. Just as vaccine treatments ARE understudied, the same is true of oxysilver (which I guess is v.low conc aq. AgCl or simply silver ions dissolved in water). It may well work, I simply have no info whatsoever. I can imagine it working (for that that’s worth) if it replaces the metaloid enzymic centre but it could do this too to necessary ‘good’ body enzymes too.



We need a Revolution

“We need a Revolution…You don’t kill innocent people.”

Revolution? Oh that’s so bad.” — The revolution is YOU STOP FUNDING the KILLERS. Currently, I’m not required to pay tax to the UK government, but if I am ever in a situation whereby I have to pay tax, I vow to never pay them one penny unless the killing stops. Believe me, this decision is sincere.

I appeal to you to consider such a thing also and encourage others to do so likewise. They have made it perfectly clear the find protest marches laughable.  

Trust me, I’m a Scientist

Am I right in thinking Scientists have some kind of authorititatve air about them? what kind of ‘air’ I’ll let you figure.

“It’s emerged that virulent H5N1 bird flu was sent out by accident from an Austrian lab last year and given to ferrets in the Czech Republic before anyone realised. As well as the risk of it escaping into the wild, the H5N1 got mixed with a human strain, which might have spawned a hybrid that could unleash a pandemic.” – source: 

I think we need a desparate reassessment of science and scientists and STOP them playing around with these things.

Parabellum (on Famous for 15 megapixels) said…
Army: Missing virus samples likely destroyed (my emphasis)
Originally published April 23, 2009
By Justin M. Palk
News-Post Staff

Missing virus samples the Army has been investigating were likely destroyed years ago when a freezer broke, according to the Army.

The samples were part of a collection of materials that had been handed down from researcher to researcher as scientists retired, said Caree Vander Linden, spokeswoman for the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

The second researcher to receive the collection performed a full inventory and couldn’t account for three vials of Venezuelan equine encephalitis, she said. The discrepancy was reported to the institute’s safety officer, and eventually to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which triggered the investigation by the Army Criminal Investigation Command.

During the investigation, one of the researchers who’d worked with the collection recalled a freezer failure at one point that destroyed a number of samples, Vander Linden said.

“Everything in it was basically lost,” she said.

This occurred before USAMRIID began using a computerized database to track its samples, and investigators could not find a paper record of the event, she said.

Chris Grey, spokesman for the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, said its investigation into the potentially missing samples is still open.

The investigation found no evidence of criminal activity in regard to the missing samples, he said.

The command is performing a mandatory final review of the case before closing it, Grey said. He would not speculate on when the case would be closed.

Venezuelan equine encephalitis is a virus carried by mosquitoes that can cause encephalitis in humans and horses, according to the CDC.

Death from the disease is rare in humans. Adults usually develop only flulike symptoms before recovering.

The CDC recommends Venezuelan equine encephalitis be handled in biosecurity level-3 facilities, as opposed to BSL-4 facilities where more dangerous pathogens such as Ebola are handled.

I feel safer already…

27 April 2009 21:18


Parabellum also informs is of these bedtime stories.

Other “arn’t scientists great'”stories:

so many more

Conspiraloons spreading quicker than Mexican Swine Flu

or is it the usual coincidence theory?


Watch out for the aunt sally.


YES. TERRORISM, BUDGET & ECONOMY, FINANCIAL CRISIS and ROYAL FAMILY. Yahoo employs a conspiraloon web designer. Give yourself a pat on the back if you spotted it.

Mexican swine flu pandemic

Pre- (essential) reading:
1) BBC advertise Tamiflu. Prof John Oxford co-developer of Tamiflu is a regular “contributor” to BBC. Read here.

2) Swine Flu: Previous Outbreak Originated At Fort Dix USA (

3) Indonesia floats idea of man-made swine flu (Atheo’s blog)
4) Two French students, working on the real origins of bird flu, tortured, killed in London
By George Kadar – American Free Press August 2008 c/o The Truthseeker. Article begins: “Two French biochemical students, Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, were murdered by Israeli Mossad-British intelligence assassination teams on June 29, 2008.” caveat: how this is knoiwn is way beyond me. 






My blog is recording increased interest in the Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez savage killings in Summer 2008 [see the post Risky profession] as well as increased hits on Aspartame – Poison and February and MK-ULTRA. Yeah the numbers are near zero, but I wonder if it’s a sign people are generally suspicious about the Mexican swine flu outbreak? I remember there were some questions about SARS a few years back.


Anyway, biochemists, microbiologists, epidemiologists etc, be careful out there (other than the scum that actually manufacture these bioweapons under the guise of ‘research’)


Scientists isolate genes that made 1918 flu lethal
Public release date: 29-Dec-2008
Contact: Yoshihiro Kawaoka
University of Wisconsin-Madison


Flu Kills The Torture Memos
By: Lori Price on: 26.04.2009





Feeling the ripples.


I recently expressed an opinion that I rather liked the documentary 7/7 Ripple Effect. It wasn’t an easy opinion to express amongst highly respected people who have done wonders to show the UK government produced a dossier of lies about the July 7th London bombings 2005. I knew expressing any positive feedback about it would draw some flac my way.


I liked it because it raised some questions about the Israyhell connection of 7/7. I had felt annoyance at some who pooh-poohed Israyhells involvement. Some spoke in a quiet voice about it and others flatly ignored the “Yesraol” factor. To me, the whole history of Israyhell and what it has done demands it must never be allowed to creep into the shadows.


I didn’t treat 7/7 RE as a work of fact (something I guess some people thought I was doing, and actually the documentary itself doesn’t pretend to “know” what happed that day as it clearly states) but to me, it does a good job at trying to piece things together into a workable picture – the foundation of criminal investigation. Errors in it’s hypothesis should be pointed out so the picture is improved. Indeed this methodology has deliberately been avoided by the honourable J7 truth team who have employed a highly successful and may I say novel way of conducting a citizens investigation into 7/7. They refuse to br drawn into hypothesising as to do so would simply allow those who for whatever reason do not want the truth i.e. the complete picture of 7/7 from emerging. Fair play to them, but fair play to those who choose to pursue the hypothesis line. Actually I think the independent 2-tier approach is good.


I couldn’t care less about the documentary makers (Mr. John Anthony Hill) personal life or any stupid things he’s done (mirror anyone?) or the stupid moniker he’s adopted. His views on economics and the way he chooses to store his life savings isn’t of any significance either, or is his supposed claims to the be the messiah *yawn*. Neither are people who, rightly or wrongly, choose not the believe that 6m Jews were killed in WW2 who are not even connected to Mr. Hill. What is significant, is Israyhells connection to 7/7.


The same thing happens about 9-11. Israyhells involvement in it is a taboo. Able Danger? so what. Young Jews who jumped for joy while the 9-11 attacks were happening and who supposedly taped it were released allowing them to escape proper investigation. Israyhelli “security” firms involved in 9-11 aren’t important. Neither is the anything else, the 9-11 “commission”. Yeah that’s right. It’s the big bad “neocons”. What their roots or higher connections are don’t matter or it’s MASSIVE lobbyist clout. Poor little Israyhell – as the Liberal Democrat Friends for Israyhell put it… ‘surrounded by so many enemies’ 




War By Way of Deception: All Roads Lead to Israel-1 of 5 (approx 10 mins)



War By Way of Deception: All Roads Lead to Israel-2 of 5 (approx 10 mins)



War By Way of Deception: All Roads Lead to Israel-3 of 5 (approx 10 mins)



War By Way of Deception: All Roads Lead to Israel-4 of 5 (approx 10 mins)


War By Way of Deception: All Roads Lead to Israel-5 of 5 (approx 10 mins)

Download them before they go ‘go-go’.







Other Links (not necessarily endorseful of this lwtc247 post):

1) Documentary maker released on bail


2) The documentary in question in “7/7: The Ripple Effect”


3) The presumed home page of the makeer of  “7/7: The Ripple Effect”


4) 7/7 Ripple Effect – a rebuttal and rejection



Establishment Slime Cental advertising goes one step higher

Yes once again it’s that old dung pit of political propaganda – BBC Newz. Up to its usual tricks of not reporting much of anti-establishment stories and events.

This time they are disgracefully advertising Tamiflu. Seasoned loons will need no introduction to Tamiflu, and my head is buzzing with self induced E102 and MSG poisoning to be bothered to give any lead links.

The poisoing is wearing off a bit now so here’s an article sent to Jeff Rense from from Patricia Doyle, PhD, with a title saying “Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!” 



The impression given is that Tamiflu is good to ‘cure’ swine flu. Has Tamiflu ever been tested against swine flu? Why don’t the BBC report on the medical studies of Tamiflu with swine fever? Why don’t they have a medical ‘expert’ cautioning that Tamiflu may have ZERO effect (other than to boost the share price of the makers of Tamiflu?.

I think the BBC should be investigated for possible corruption.


“In 2007, nearly 90 years after Sir Mark Sykes died, all the living descendants gave their permission to exhume his body for scientific investigation headed by virologist, Prof John Oxford…. – source

Other info:

…Professor Oxford is a prolific communicator. He also makes time to give numerous interviews on BBC Radio and Television, and is a frequent contributor to the BBC News website. Professor Oxford has published 250 scientific papers.

He is especially proud of Retroscreen Virology, which he established in 1989 with the help of EU funding. Retroscreen Virology has grown into Europe’s leading contract virology research company. Its work is dedicated to creating the next generation of antivirals and vaccines in the field of biomedical research. It is the only company in the UK able to conduct human influenza challenge studies in a specialised quarantine unit with A/Panama/2007/99 and A/New Caledonia/20/99 viruses and has characterised influenza A (H1N1 and H3N2) and B viruses. Recently the company cultivated the SARS virus in its containment laboratory and has investigated virucides and lozenges for major pharmaceutical companies.” – source


Professor Oxford then moved to Canberra to work under Professor Graeme Laver, whose work with the crystallization of the influenza protein formed the basis for the development of the Tamiflu vaccine. – source:

Well well well.

Does Oxford get money from the EU for ‘pandemic disaster management’?
Does Oxford get royalties for Tamiflu? (which as far as I know has no effect on swine flu)
Does Oxford stand the chance of making a lot from ‘preventitive action in Eurozone’?
Did does Oxford advise on what medicines to stock?
Is Oxford the Peter Power of the pharmaceutical industry?

Did Ms. Tansy Huws have it or not? And how did Tamiflu supposedly make her better?

“Tamiflu’s safety and effectiveness have not been determined in people with chronic heart or lung disease, kidney failure, or in people with high-risk underlying medical conditions…

Tamiflu has not been shown to treat flu-like illnesses caused by any virus other than influenza A and B (e.g., stomach flu, common cold, or other respiratory illnesses not caused by influenza). – source FDA,

 Why would the Mexican doctors follow up: “Couldn’t get out of bed for a WHOLE WEEK… From one minute to the next she felt nauseous and had a VERY HIGH fever.” – sounds pretty serious to me. How come Ms. Huws doesn’t actually know what she had?

Don’t take drugs so that the symptoms are clear??? After ONE WHOLE WEEK?? I think they’d be pretty clear. And if the symptoms started last Sunday (8 days ago, and you were in bed for a WHOLE WEEK, I applaud you being fit enough to contact the BBC websire and tell all – mention of Tamiflu included. Do they call it ‘Tamiflu’ in Mexico?

Do the embassies/FCO  log phone calls?

Why is Oxford digging up Mark Sykes’ body for spanish flu when they had samples of it in 2004? See here. From that article is says “they say that their work may lead to better ways to assess the potential danger of emerging flu viruses.” – Yeah and better understanding on how to use it as a weapon. There is NO scientific development that goes unlooked at for its potential as a weapon. If memory serves correct, the PNAC doc, Rebuilding America’s Defences aludes to race specific vioweapons. 

Will somebody assassinate this man?

Update April 27th 2009:

Edgar J. Steele: Obummer Get ready for martial law, folks. I predict that we will see it enacted sometime next year, if not as early as this coming Fall. Obama: Chains You Can Believe In More …

I can’t possibly see the level of opposition to the NWO in the US (or UK) will ever be strong enough to pose a serious threat of overthrow to the rotten establishment. The assassination of the Obama messiah will. It’s my opinion/prediction that Obamas assassinaion will be the black-op to deliberately catalyse US civil war, and not Mr  Steele’s assertion that it’ll be Obama himself that declares martial law. The problem with strengthening fascism isn’t with the Obama puppet. It’s independent of him. Obama’s specific role is to induce mass JFK.MLK like fear in the hearts of its people.  His killing will deliberately leave clues that it was an ‘inside job’. the conspiracy theory that breaks the US camels back.


That was a question on the lips of many before Obama – the mini-me of new messiahs, ‘won’ the ‘(s)election’ towards the end of 2008.

I tried desperately to avoid the puke inducing coverage of the three stooges (which turned into the two stooges after Obama and Hitlery Clinton made their secret deal while deliberately imprisoning ‘journalists’ on a plane – See ‘The Obama Deception‘) and I was very successful in doing so. But it proved impossible to avoid seeing bits of his ‘victory’ speech.

I was shocked.

People were standing in the streets crying, yes that’s right they were crying because Obama had won. Obama started saying some prayer like Bob the Builder chanting something like ‘Can we fix it?’ The camera immediately focused on some starry-eyed woman in the crowd and replied something like ‘Yes we can’. Come to think of it, the director of the telecast must have been a VERY sharp man to have carried that off. Well, either that or it was scripted. I wonder (but not for long!).

Of course the you will probably remember in the messiah’s waiting time before being sworn in (‘8hit, here’s the latest butchering puppet’) coincided with the obliteration of 1300+ people and the wholesale destruction of hundreds of buildings and water supplies  was taking place a few thousand miles away in the East Mediterranean. Not a peep from his hole-eness but plenty of crap about the financial meltdown which his buddies managed to pull off. And that slaughter orgy ended just before ‘he who is the lie-t’ was spookily sworn in twice.

We shouldn’t be surprised – that is unless you were one of those UTTER IDIOTS who auto-aroused yourself into falling for the crap that Obama will feed the world using five loaves of bread and two fish and touch mankind to cure it’s socioligical leprosy, chasing the money changers out of the temple and denouncing the pharisees for their wicked perversions.

The O-ley one had previously declared the occupation of Palestine sacrosanct and that Jerusalem should be the capital of that very occupation – something he could no doubt, happily and directly explain to Samia Ihdaidoon. Now allegedly black man, ancestral victim of the Jewish slave trade and white racist lynch-mobs,  mini-mOshiachObama, has declared the Jews are “THE CHOSEN ONES”

Do you understand that?

This man is calling the Zionist filth CHOSEN – in full accordance to the perverse Talmudic description of the ‘Hebrews’ as racially superior to all other forms of life including that of non-Jews. Obamessah is condoning racism and the extermination of the Palestinians.

The big O is also going to kill hundreds of thousands of Afghani wives, children, husbands and grandparents, millions of Pakistanis when the US sends its special forces in to Pakistan having encouraged a civil war there, the US taking the side of the smiling widower Asif Zardari. It’s possible O will imprison thousands of US citizens, horrified at what they now see in front of them now that Obama’s plastic mask is dissolving rapidly away.

So the queastion has since faded. will someone assassinat him, re-emerge as the the US juggernought of death continues it multiple and simultaneous wars.

I predict a home grown assassin will try it.


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What’s up George?

Updated Sun 26th Apr 09 – but not all errors repaired yet.


Georgie boy. I’ve been watching you. What went through your mind when you pledged allegiance to the queen?


What went through your mind when you cashed in my £100 donation, when you sued the Telegraph about your alleged Iraqi oil allocations? Nothing went through your mind obviously when you didn’t return the cash in spite of the promise you gave before hand that all contributors would be refunded via the settlement.


And Georgie boy, why do you support what is rather stupidly called ‘Gay rights‘ yet you claim to be a believer in God? And you very rarely talk about gay issues in public. Lucky Peter Tatchell is there to beguile the masses that you are anti-gay. Good for recruiting Muslims. On the gay issue, do you hastily shut your Bible or Qur’an when that issue comes up?  You know better than God is it? Is your finger reflexing onto a wished for red censorship button yet?


How come the Israeli’s let you into Gaza? Unreserved praise to you however for the aid you helped get into Gaza under the Viva Palestina campaign. You’ve got great prositivisms but your negatives need to be addressed too!


This video below brought back some previous thoughts of GG.





 The Dossier also links to a clip where Georgie supposedly poo-poos 9-11 scepticism (but the dossiers link is dead)





This from GG’s talksport radio show… I wrote the bulk of it 16 months ago.


GG and Abdul 28-12-07 talksport  117m:57s

GG: Here’s Abdul in Greenford. Go on Abdul


A: Good evening George.


GG: Good evening to you sir


A: Yeah, em, I’d to disagree with your assertion that BB would have been the best thing for the Pakistani nation.


GG: Go on



for the simple reason it would have meant almost definitely the death sentence for numerous thousands of Pakistanis along the border which was alluded to in Waziristan in the north western frontier area, and the Beluchi area, in Peshawar and numerous other areas of Pakistan. And if I could just go onto explain my reasons for that George:


GG: Yep.


A: Yeah. Ever since Sept 11th happened and eh, the infamous threat that was given to General Musharraf that the Americans would bomb Pakistan back into the stonae age


GG: Yep.


A: They were given Carte blance to do what ever they wanted in Pakistan in respect of Al-Qaeda or Taliban or however you want to describe them


GG: Hummm


A: And uuuh, General Musharaf gave them that permission. They’ve been bombing, they’ve been crossing the border, they’ve killed thousands of thousands upon thousands of civilians. You don’t ever see it on the papers here, but through our own networks in the mosques in numerous places, you will see the collections taking place and you will see the photographs of numerous of Pakistani’s being killed. A lot of your listeners don’t seem to know that there is already western intervention in Pakistan. It’s been going on for many years.


GG: Yeah, I’ve been pointing it out.. I’ve been pointing it out





They’ve been firing artillery, they’ve been using deplete uranium, been using white phosphorous which burns people, burns villages alive. The poorest people in Pakistan which, I don’t want to criticise too much Beneie Bhutto, she’s already passed on and she will be judged as we will all be judged, but anyone who saw the American TV networks in the last few months of this year, will not have been surprised to see BB on every channel; Fox TV, C-SPAN, CNN where she was electioneering and lobbying, telling the American administration and congressmen that Musharraf wasn’t doing enough, even though he was killing thousands of his own people and his own soldiers, she was on there saying “I will do much more”, “I will fight them more”, “I will do this, I will do that”. She was gonna put a sign, target sign, on half the Pakistani population.


GG: Why was she so popular then eauuuh Abdul?


{What a stupid question. How is that question relevant? That if she was popular, then that negates the fact she was baying for even more blood letting and a closening of ties with the Americans. She advocated major leage for herself and relegation of Musharraf – into jus the little league of people killers?

And what of her supporters? Look at Turkey, look that millions of people who love the the Young Turks who massacred the Armenians, or how popular the Christian Jewish Zionists are in the States (40m members!), What of the sizeable Cuban exiles in the States who have bought into US political thinking and hate Castro, or the very significant anti-Chavez elite and middle to upper middle classes in Venezuela. How does their popularism whitewash their crimes and crimes-to-be.}




Abdul: Oh well you say she was popular.


GG: Well 2 million turned out in Karachi for her arrival.


{Pakistan has a population of well over 100million. What then of 2m supporters? Who counted them? 2m people marched in Feb 2003 against the Iraq war from a country of 60m – a far higher proportion than those coming to see BB return to Pakistan. You chat the inferences!


And this 2m Pakistani’s who went to see her. How many of them were the more affluent classes, akin to toffs as GG says, toffs which he said he doesn’t like. Are those 2m Pakistani’s just western wannabe’s? Given BB pan-Pakistanism.?}



Abdul: If she was that popular, why did the Americans circumvent the law of Pakistan and getting the charges of corruption dropped? Why wasn’t it tested in court? You don’t agree with them.


{I am guessing here, but Abdul may be implying that if BB was so popular, it was a reflection on the integrity of her leadership and that of her party, meaning the corruption charges would therefore have been fake and that they would not have been proved true. To a degree, I agree with Abdul. GG said to another caller that BB was so rich she had not need to try and cream off even more money (from a wheat contract he mentioned, – a single occurrence, and with obvious intentions to encourage disdain for the corruption charges) but GG gave a bit of a dodge when the issue of BB’s husband’s corruption charges was mentioned. And using GG’s logic the banksters and toffs he says he doesn’t like being already rich don’t cream off anything. GG isn’t playing devils advocate, he’s letting his friendship with BB cloud his vision. GG’s human.

I can well believe the charges were trumped up. Pakistan suffers from the interference of political meddling in the judiciary.}


GG: That would have nothing to do with popularity. What I am asking you is: If America is so unpopular in Pakistan and I agree with you that it is, and if BB was a slave of the Americans, why did so many people support her? Either the Americans are popular or Beezie was not a slave of the Americans.


Abdul: Yeah, you’re presuming that she won that election.


{Again a good point by Abdul which I took to mean, that we was SO popular that she would have won the elections and that her support wasn’t already fully represented in the 2 million out on the streets of Karachi. I remember when Killer Musharaf took over. While I can remember only speaking to one of my friends about it at the time, and his views may I conceded be way off, but he said that although people were nervous about the new unknown element that had imposed itself in Pakistani life in Pakistan (i.e. Musharraf and a new military state), people were fed up of the country, corruption was fife, he and other Pakistani friends mentioned the 10% problem. Corruption went on and each (or most) people in the economic chain used corrupt practices but simply took a 10% cut of each corrupted path along the way}. The same one guy then said Musharraf may improve the situation and so Musharraf was supported in some kind of apprehensive way} So BB’s rule, although short, wasn’t perhaps seen by many people as good, and therefore her support could have been significantly less than what GG is debating. BUT, Moosey became so bad that it can’t be ignored that her popularity could have spiralled picking up those disappointed with Musharaaf.}


GG: No no no I’m not. I’m talking about the millions that turned out on her arrival, just a few weeks ago. You must have seen it as I did?



Abdul: Uh, what’s that George?


GG: You must have seen it, as I did, the millions who turned out to welcome her.


Abdul: that was not an election George

{Abdul is good!}. That was a turn out to meet her. {Very good!}


GG: WEll, I mean, if she was an American poodle or stooge or agent or worse as your implying, why did so many people turn out to welcome her?


Abdul: I wouldn’t have voted for her.

{Hummm. perhaps not that good – here anyway. Abdul’s vote going elsewhere doesn’t answer the question of the two million(?) that turned out to greet her. Lets forget that people may have just gone there to witness a historical event.


GG: Well, she never did get a chance did she, because somebody killer her. Now I don’t know who killed her, I do know that the regeime of Musharraf has to take responsibility for the conditions, aaah, which were created for her, err, killing her, but there is a difference, there might be a difference Abdul, I’m gonna have to press you on this: there might be a difference between us, I don’t support Osama bin Laden do you?


{ WHAT???? This is a real let down by George. A rather wild non-sequitor, GG is fishing around to some way to try and discredit Abdul. And besides, it is utter speculation that bin Laden is responsible for this. I’m sure Abdul would have been willing to engage in hypothetical’s in a more progressive manner rather than just have a very big loaded question come his way. A hypothetical which could also have included possibilities that the US did it to keep the devil they know in power in Pakistan – or one that was more plyable, or perhaps even Musharraf did it, or one could ask members of her own family? But no. these hypothetical’s won’t allow GG to try and corner his opponent who is doing very well to show that GG’s strength of support for BB is actually badly placed. Very naughty George. Very naughty indeed!}




Abdul: That’s, that’s, thats’ absolutely ridiculous. and preposterous of you to say such a thing.

{Well said mate! Have you noticed something? GG’s skilfully turned the tables from focus on BB and onto you. Not once but twice. The first time was quite mild – on the popularity issue, but this one is to be honest a MASSIVE lunge for the jugular. GG has no reason to try and do this to you at all, other than to defend his belief in BB – a belief that actually would have been seen yet more innocent people being blown to smithereens – which I’m sure turns GG’s stomach when the USUKZ do it. Abdul. You have put your case very well and GG has still said nothing critical of BB’s flirtation with the US and the broader Coalition of the Killing. GG has lost the argument.


Now I like GG because I give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s genuine, and that he says exactly what he believes, even if sometimes he may entertain the odd contradiction, such as strong professed generally Christian religious beliefs but then he supports homosexual relationships. GG also said he dislikes what he calls ‘toffs’ – Isn’t BB a Pakistani toff? But even though I like him, I refuse to shut my eyes to any flaws he has. Here he deserves to be criticised (as he did about his caution when hearing the words Zionist and Conspiracy – which he disappointingly transposed to Jewish and Conspiracy). “No man is an Island” What GG said during his radio shows over the Christmas period and that pretty much spot on. Failure to point out the flaws of those we like is in itself a negativism – look at the way Muslims in Arab countries very much undeservedly elevate their leaders to. Many of which are puppets of the US (which is controlled by the Zionist movement)


GG: WEll I’m asking you.

{George is pursuing the unwarranted attempt at discreditation}


Abdul: I support justice in the world.


GG: Me too, me too. Now, I don’t believe that Osama bin Laden and his supporters have brought anything of good to Pakistan, in fact I think the West putting them there in the first place, was the beginning of the doom of Pakistan,


Abdul: …killed every day by the Americans. she was gonna allow…

{It seems like the beginning of Abduls comment is clipped as GG hadn’t slid the ‘open mic’ control up quick enough.}


GG: {closes off Abdul’s mic again} Abdul, calm down. Do you agree with me that in fact it was the West’s putting of the likes of bin laden into Pakistan and Afghanistan in the first place that was the beginning of the doom of Pakistan.


Abdul: The point is George, she was being shoe-horned into the premiership {lovely uncommon phrase there, and he’s right}


GG: Why don’t you answer that point Abdul, it’s making me suspicious as to why you won’t answer it.


{Gerogy boy, Abdul has obviously seen to some degree that you are setting a trap and looking to harvest your attack. Whereas before he was only shoved into a corner, You are now trying to crush him into it.


With your use of “suspicious” the public now will adopt your challenge and also expect an answer. Failure to do so will in effect, doom Abdul and bring Abduls argument into disrepute – wrongly so it must be said, but that is what the vast majority of listeners would do).


But by answering the question to allay those fears he is also doomed! You see, I suspect GG has sussed Abdul is the a bona fide Muslim and he knows the Abduls honest answer cannot be “No”, because despite the fact that 9-11 methodology and other attacks that killed innocent people were utterly sinful, which bin Laden may OR MAY NOT have done [actually it doesn’t matter whether bin Laden did it or not because the PUBLIC PERCEPTION has already adopted the stance that HE IS involved and GG knows there ain’t gonna be any debate on Osama’s involvement or lack of it in a conspiracy type debate – certainly on this phone call anyway] a Muslim cannot honestly say he does not support the publically perceived (public is important here) philosophy of Osama bin Laden; the fact is this philosophy is essentially Islamic! Do remember please to distinguish between the Islamic principles of that philosophy and any utterly wrong methodology. Hand on heart, all Muslims worthy of the name do actually agree with say, liberation of the Holy lands (Palestine and the Hejaz), the restoration of the Caliphate, the cleansing of Muslim lands from its terrible leaders and anti-God like practices of usury and of course, the removal of oppression for people everywhere etc. If a Muslim were to deny support for that, he is either ignorant of Islam (sadly a bit common these days) or he has thrown a dagger into the core of Islam as well as into his own heart.



Now of course, if he does somehow give any kind answer which appears to be a leaning towards bin Laden then most obviously GG will again be able to discredit Abdul by falsely brandishing Abdul as a supporter of bin Laden, Al Queda and of being a supporter of terrorism, whilst we can bet Abdul wouldn’t have time to refute those accusations and stop GG from massively inflating a misperception into serious aforementioned allegations.



GG continued:  Do you agree with me, that bin Laden and his ilk have brought nothing but disaster to the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan? And that being against them is not some kind of crime. I myself am agains them. Are you against them?


{the diversion from Abduls point – spun into BB would have been the best thing for the Pakistani nation, is almost complete.}


Abdul: Against who George?


GG: Against the bin Ladenites who have brought disaster.


Abdul: What does bin Laden have to do with this? Were talking about Benazir Bhutto and…


GG: Well, no. I’m I’m I’m noting that you don’t want to answer that and praying in aid in you ‘charge sheet’ against her that she was determined to crush the bin Ladenites along the border.


{Note: Abdul spoke of these people as civilians. QUOTE: “they’ve [the Americans] killed thousands of thousands upon thousands of civilians.” He most definitely did NOT describe them as bin Ladenites. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON AT ALL! It was GG who imposed this intended slur to the people on the border, and red herring towards Abdul}


GG continues: I’m saying to you that’s not necessarily a bad thing, after all, the bin Ladinites and the Islamist fundamentalists have brought disaster to Pakistan and Afghanistan. Do you agree with me.


{WOAH! I really reject that interpretation! The imposition of a secular, fiat currency based model was earmarked for Pakistan, while having the razor thin veneer of and Islamic state (c.f. Turkey) Muslims or “Islamists” as GG calls them in this case, (Islamists in this modern age, has been made to be a dirty word by which to defame with which to defame) have in various forms resisted this Godless model. It’s been a disaster from that point of successfully imposing that system George.


Now this is the problem, or rather the ‘failing’ with ALL non-Muslims. They cannot escape from secular thinking. They cannot comprehend the implications of what it means to be a Muslim, the submission and the opening of the mind to Gods supremacy in regards to EVERYTHING. Unless they take that plunge and they/one personally intellectually explores the consequences of that belief, they cannot fully understand Islam. The non-Muslims can have a good knowledge of Islam and it’s practices, they may well have Muslim friends, they even may ‘like’ Islam to varying degrees* and tolerate Islam, but they IMO, they simply cannot understand the nature of a Muslims relationship with God. They will end up falsely believing they understand Muslims and Islam. It’s like trying to comprehend the qualities of an orange having only ever experienced banana’s


Some Muslims too fall into this, because they don’t contemplate and intellectually probe their professed belief in the All Mighty. It is this reason why people of deep religious knowledge, especially the monotheistic religions are closer to Muslims than any other people, even closer I’d say than those Muslims who haven’t undergone the mental exercising of their faith, however, in cases where say, Christian of Jewish believers take on the innovations of man into their religion, then those chinks in their armour result in the secularization of their thinking and hence differences of opinion with Muslims.



Secularists also cannot understand the necessity of Muslims to reject secularism and it is FUNDAMENTALLY anti-Islamic. The secularist will eventually, in his thinking, even if conscious of his secularism, will eventually have his secular subconscious lead to a point of derision with non-secularists, Muslims in this case. The disagreement will likely be irreconcilable (as no doubt would be demonstrable) but doesn’t necessarily have to lead anything too serious. This is also interesting because it suggests that Muslims conscious, by way of his slavery to God can actually program his subconscious. Anyway, I digress.



GG has just displayed the secularists comprehension. Here, it’s false and wrong. His implication is that in the absence of “Islamists” Pakistan would better. As he hasn’t properly defined “Islamists” he’s skating on virtual ice.




The West have brought disaster. there the ones… {mic muted??}


GG: They are – that’s exactly my point. If you’ll listen to me and keep calm {quiet?}, it was the West that brought bin Laden and the fundamentalist virus into Pakistan.

{Fundamentalist, George means to say is terrorist because a fundamentalist Muslim should be the goal of every Muslim. Someone with complete and utter submission and whose whole life is played out in praise of his Creator. Fundamentalist – one who cannot be bought off by the trappings of this world, has also been made to be a dirty word} and into Afghanistan. Do you agree?


Abdul: All the laws…


GG: do you agree with that..


Abdul: were cancelled(?) by the Americans


GG: do you agree with that point Abdul?


Abdul: She should have been in a court. {mic goes to silence}


GG: Abdul! It’s beginning to be really suspicious why you won’t answer that simple point. It was the West that brought the virus of fundamentalism into Pakistan, and it’s been a disaster for everybody. Do you agree with me.

{Now it’s “really” suspicious, GG employs his standard cannon fire, which again GG knows either answer will help him ‘defeat’ Abdul (in the publics eyes anyway) Because once again, Abdul knows what a real fundamentalist and an Islamist is i.e. both totally devoting their lives to what they believe is Islam. (and yes, I know the problem there!)


Abdul: No. There is resistance. {GG cuts his mic}


GG: Abdul, I think we’ve marked you card my dear.


– end –


There you go. GG has totally put Abdul in the narrow set of logical/argumentative pathways of GG’s creation. Pathways which GG knows exactly where they lead to.


Once Abduls said the word “resistance”, GG immediately shot down the path of his logic to dump the caller unceremoniously into the silence from whence he came, away from any eager ears that may have been listening. You see, GG is taking the single word ‘resistance’, and immediately cutting off any possible forthcoming contextualisation of that word by Abdul, to mean that Osama bin Laden, and Al Queda are this resistance. Resistance is legitimate you see – GG knows that, but when he casts it to out to lie with what the public consider terrorists then GG is able to make Abdul look as though he’s supporting terrorism.


GG that was a dreadful display. Abdul completely blew away your support of BB and did well to resist the majority of what you spoke which involved traps. You didn’t discuss a single aspect of what Abdul originally wanted to discuss.


Abdul. congratulations. You are one of the rare people to come out trumps in an argument under the {mic on/off} dominating control of GG. In the process GG show himself and a very ingratiating light.


GG, you mentioned marking peoples cards. from this performance I mark your card as supporting the deaths of civilians as was Abduls point, the deaths of civilians that would have been killed if BB won the election, when fighting what you call Islamists and fundamentalists (likely to just a bunch of believers in Islam and very likely NOT terrorists – certainly those thousands liquidated at the border) AND the poorest people of Pakistan. That is the consequence of your pro-Bhuttoism, even if you would consciously reject such a thing.


I hope if GG ever reads this, he learns from this and takes steps to re-examine his opinion on this matter.







* One man, a earlier caller who was a non-Muslim on the 25th Dec show I think, gave me a huge lump in my throat when he said he tuned into Muslim radio stations and listened to Arabic (I think and presume he meant Qur’an recitals) and he espoused its virtues of listening to saying it was beautiful and calming. I can’t describe easily why that made me so emoitional. But it is beautiful.





P.S. GG. You shouted at a caller on the “non-separate issue” that the people were starving because 60% of Pakistanis budget went to Pakistan Armed forces. Tell me George, what budget allocation did your friend Benazir Bhutto allocate to the Pakistan defence forces. Also if you will, please tell me how Bhuttos stopped Pakistans nuclear defence program in her two stints as PM which lasted approximately four years.?



The same caller also pointed out an error you made earlier when you said it was the army received 60% of Pakistan’s budget, but you completely ignored it. In fact you then went on to restate your error asking the caller not understand the words you were saying when you said “so Pakistan’s defence is a different thing from Pakistan’s army is it?” Yes George. It is different. The British defence budget is not the same as the British army’s budget. from Pakistan’s Army” You gave no acknowledgement that you were wrong. This caller also legitimately asked you “who told you that” in relation to your claim that the army were behind both the depositions of Benezir Bhutto. And then you divert his question and accuse him of trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.


And yet you immediately go on to issued a self proclamation that you were an “I’m an expert on Pakistan and I have been for almost 30 years” and yet you later ridiculed a elderly caller, a Pakistani too boot, who made a simple mistake regarding two similarly sounding names: Benezir’s husband, Zardari with former President of Pakistan, Largari


The pro-Musharaf caller who you engaged in a tussle with, over the 60% army/defence budget also said ___ Bhutto the father of Benezir Bhutto wo said we will eat grass but we will develpp nuclear weapons.”

So not only Benny did her part in starving the Pakistani people but her father also took it upon himself to determine that people should starve so that his vision and his riches (the question of which you also dodged) should prevail.


You also contradicted yourself over the your statements of exile. You earlier said “she was exiled” but later it became “she went into exile” Her exile was of her own volition. You’re trying to have your cake and eat it George. Being an expert of almost 30 years standing and you say that?  So is it the case that in fact, she wasn’t told to get out of the country And actually, I recall demands and deadlines being made for her return so that she could face those corruption charges, and I’m pretty sure those demands came under Musharrafs dictatorship a number of years ago.


Later you said she went into exile because of the trumped up charges against her. And What of the presidents role? Did he just stand back and let the army file these charges???


You also said it was because of the “trumpeted up political charges” but is corruption not a financial charges? And that it was Nawaz Sharif who admitted that the charges HE brought against her were trumped up. But you said earlier that the army exiled her.


And noted is your complete disregard to the caller that questioned Benny giving her life for Globalization.


George George, George my love, Benny’s spell upon you has made you terribly blind my old son.





Update April 2009. What do you say about all the drone attacks Georgie boy? That’s bin Ladens fault too isn’t it.

I’m watchin ya George and you persistent defending of Zionism when you wrongly call it Judaism and therefore identifying Zionism is a racist acusation. How can a man who proclaims to know so much about Palestine make such a fundamentl error.


P.S. I still want that money back please!






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