Archive for May 8th, 2009

To gay or not to gay? There is no question.

This is a relatively unstructured post, based on comments on Craig Murray’s site. His post gave some discussion to a recent Gallup poll about Muslims in the West. Link HERE. It will help to read his post first.

Can a person who is “25% Arab” be a racist? Of course. Genetic make-up isn’t a guarantee against being a racist. Is say, a black African, who has ‘no problem’ with South American natives, welcome the white Europeans, but disfavour the Chinese, a racist? Of course, but if that disfavour doesn’t manifest in anything then it’s trivial racism. I think most people are ‘trivially racist’. A room contains 18 people who can be classified by race.  3 whites, 3 Africans 3 Chinese, 3 Indians, 3 Aborigines, 3 South Americans. They are instantly placed in that room in a random fashion. What’s the chances they arrange/group themselves into race?

That is what I call trivial racism. What have you done when you see a room nearly full of your own ethnic group, and there’s been one foreigner? Have you ‘turned away’ from the foreigner, or have you made a conscious effort to speak to the other race? If the former, then you are displaying trivial racism. If the latter, then you are still displaying trivial racism because you had to artificially make an effort to engage with the person of a different race.

If your mind never at any stage had any effect on whether you talk to them or not, then I’d say such a thing is rare. But I can guess your mind will have flagged their race when first spotting them which I’d classify as sub-trivial racism. Purchasing goods from your own race without the conscious decision not to buy from other races is also trivial racism. Trivial racism is hardly ever discussed. It is ‘deliberately discriminatory’ or ‘prejudicial racism’ is the thing most of us should reject.

Time moves forward; What then of somebody who holds an idea that was commonplace 50 years ago but is uncommon these days. Is he ‘backward’. Are Luddites backward or do they have a case that innovations will cause a greater harm in the long term.

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Why do pro-gay people and liberals who ‘let homosexuality be’, attack Muslims and Christians and the theology they base their anti-Gay opinion on, but very rarely Jews and Judaism?

If sexual acts  between two (or more) men are OK, as the gay parade make out, then is having sex with your parents or your grandmother OK? What then is it wrong with have sex with two year old? A 12 year old? A person who is 15 years 363 days 23 hours old yet it is OK to have sex with a person 61 minutes older? Why is not OK to be naked in public? Why is it wrong to have sex in public on the No 14 bus or while waiting at the chippy?

These are serious questions. But they probably won’t be addressed by gays because it exposes the hypocrisy of pro-gay arguments and ties the liberal clergy in ‘knots’. The problem for them is the liberalism they deploy to justify their behaviour isn’t applicable to ALL and EVERY sex act (lets keep it simple and exclude ‘underage’ sex) say with your parents, brother or sister or the newly born kitten, and it will never be applicable without human restrictions. 

Fundamentalist liberalism which gays and pro-gays drivel out is a nonsense. All societies impose boundaries of social acceptance, because all societies recognise the need for these thresholds of behaviour. That some of these boundaries are solid and long established is seem by some as an irrelevance or even a point for attack. Traditional values which have aided fruitful societies, get cursed as ‘static’ and – probably deliberately – conflated with ‘badness’ and ignorance. Tradition is cast akin to an affliction. Yet all homosexuals will at some stage espouse ‘old’ moral principles that goes against the liberty they use to excuse their sexual acts. This shows their hypocrisy. Liberalism/liberty actually becomes self defeating at some stage.

Things aren’t bad just because they are old, but that’s the garbade the gay lobby churn out. And really, are humans and their needs so different now than what they were 4, 6, 8000 years ago? Do we no longer need food, shelter, security, the community? Of course not.

We are being asked to believe by the gay parade that traditionalists, either by theology or otherwise, are essentially “negative” elements of society. What then of the need for food, shelter etc? Funeral rituals, the formalities of a Japanese party or kissing the nipples of a tribal leaders daughters {as is the social norm in some societies}, or aboriginal rights of passage into manhood, birthday celebrations, New Years eve/day? Pass the liberal dustbin please darling.

The human mind is great at justifying human behaviour. We see this today with Bush/Blair/Rove/Cheney justifying torture. We see it in Palestine, with the bombing of women and kids and bulldozing they houses, making them give birth (and death) at a checkpoint because they are refuses leave to get to a hospital etc etc etc.

People do the same thing with gay sex. Gay sex is a mental choice. You don’t have to shove your penis in and out of a mans anus. If you like things in your bottom, then it doesn’t HAVE to be a mans penis, and from some X-ray’s I’ve seen, it sometimes isn’t.

And so the mind works on many fronts, citing homosexuality as “development” and “progression” (both those claims are preposterous and fiercely contestable) or that what they call ‘love’ but actually mean sex. NONE of their spins relate to the conscious decision to have your bottom poked by another, other than individual desire to engage in such acts.

Again, you can love your Mother and Father yes? The gay advocates position on same sex means you cannot argue against having sex with your parents. But of course you shouldn’t have sex with your parents – because it’s perverse. The word “love” is the cloak for ‘sexual acts’ and cloaks gay sex acts. The mind can easily be made to think there is nothing wrong with it especially when the mind determines for itself what is permissible and when the mind has decided that’s what it wants.
This mind bending doesn’t stop there, it’s evident in virtually EVERY part of human society. Monotheists recognise their minds are bent. They cannot argue with God. They have to put aside their quirks and follow the clear advice God has issued. That’s the essence of being a believer coined by the term Muslim – One who submits. Practicising Christians and Jews are also Muslims in that context.

And in regards to homosexuality, what could be argued is the Hebrew founded denunciation of homosexuality is passed over (via mind bend again) so that the Jewish condemnation of homosexuality never gets a mention. Of course not. It would invite the unwanted attention of the “you’re an anti-Semite!” spotlight.

In occidental looking countries, the mind game sees Islam and Christianity the soft targets to aim for. Christianity because these days it’s essentially legally powerless, and Islam for the same reason.

 Not that I want Judaism to be attacked for it’s correct stance of homosexuality, I’m simply pointing a case of where the mind self-censors and beguiles itself. Trivially: the mind has even thrown out the correct meaning of the word ‘gay’ – meaning happy.

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I have the fingers of one hand waiting to count the proclamations that Judaism is backward, and retrograde, and that practicing Jews are prejudiced who have a ‘problem’ and that they really must learn to conform to western values.

So I disagree with the execution of homosexual acts. But it seems to me, there are far more serious matters to concern ourselves with.

 Further reading: “Genetic Disorders Like S.A.D. Deserve Treatment, Not Acceptance – by George Kocan

(apologies for publishing the ‘scratchpad draught” of this earlier)


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