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George Monbiot et Wattsupwiththat a la CRU UEA

This blog has received relatively quite a bit of extra traffic looking for George Monbiot.

The reason is clear, Monbiots dismissal of climategate.

I am honoured that quite a few people would come here for some commentary on it, although others, here and here too, plus here have done a far better job of it than I could possibly do.

The sterling effort of others plus the fact I haven’t read any of the e-mails in their entirity are couple of reasons why I’ve not commented, and to be honest, the small amounts of the e-mails I have read are exceedingly boring!. So thanks to these concerned citizens who have taken up the tedium on my behalf and that of others.

What I did read was Georgieboy’s dismissal of the e-mails leaked/hacked e-mails from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia(UEA) UK  ( By the way, these e-mails are now being said to have been stolen. Does the legality of theft apply to e-mail?. IA breach of privacy perhaps, but theft? Hummm…

Back to Monbiot… Read his article hosted on a numb er of sites including

Now, Monbiot is being clever yet at the same time his attempt to do so actually turns into the sword of Damocles (albeit with the sword containing a fair % of rubber). You see, if queried about what he wrote, Monbiot would obviously protest he was simply beng funny when he dressing his comments up in satire, but actually, that is precicesly what would be needed for him to believe it. By applying lashings of satire upon it, it helps him to aviod a serious discussion on the matter. Al Franken did the same thing about 911 when he wrote in his book that he too got one of these reported warning phone calls on the morning of 911 before the planes hit. {actually the book is very good at fulfilling its intent, but it an exercise is extreme bipolarisation – one of the major problems afflicting so called democracy today}

BEFORE climate broke, Monbiot dismissed the anthropogenic global warming (man made via CO2 global warming) skeptics as he seemingly always does when evidence of a whatever conspiracy – but a real conspiracy, backed up with hard factual evidence – arises. And like all coincidence theorists, in damage limitation mode, he puts it down to a few rotten apples in the barrel. Kinda reminds me of the filthy killers of the USUK army and the kill for $ mercs, of the racism – the institutional racism – in the UK police force.

Well Gerorge, those rotten apples were operating with noone in their peer cirle pointing the finger to them calling them rotten. No. They were I woul say with little doubt representitive of the CO2 AGW scam.

Then there’s Monbiot’s apparent duality. He says of climategate:

“It’s no use pretending this isn’t a major blow.”

and then pretends everything’s alright. Well, if it is just a few rotten apples, why is it a major blow?

And I don’t know if anyone has notices but his ‘what it would take e-mail’ is written with quite a strong smell of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Is this accidental? One of the many coincidences people of Monbiots mind constantly witness as global events unfurl? I say not, for this readon: Georgieboy can’t quite hack it with the tired and quite redundant ‘antisemite’ label in this case but he’s alluding to it here. It’s the same old put a yellow star on it and then denouce those who point it out technique.

Am I wrong? Well perhaps if GM actually discussed the ‘hide the decline’ part of climategate, then I could well be, but he didn’t. The word decline doesn’t feature even once in his whole article, something that pro-governmnet 911’ers do rather a lot of.

Georgieboy says:

“They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence.”

Am I once again shouting at empty bustps when it seems to me George starts off with the numbers 3&4 then instantly after wards the numbers whittle down to 1&2. Of course he’s talking about a different issue, but he would have written this:

“They raise questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred lines of evidence. They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. “

Do you think those two statements are quivanet? Does the rising numbers in the alternative wording not have a different mental imprint in your conscience or perhaps more validly, your sub-conscience? And wait, when you reverse it you might notice something interesting. How can there only be one ‘or perhaps two’ {as Monbiot puts it} bits of evidence yet have three or four scientists involved? Is the single piece of evidence, written words, split between (on average) two scientists??? Hummm… Well frem reading Monbiot’s article, we’ll simply never know because (remember the technique?) he doesn’t mention them!


 “To bury man-made climate change, a far wider conspiracy would have to be revealed. “

Again George doesn’t treat us to what he according to his values and ideas would be the ‘wider’ conspiracy, which brings me to another point…. wider conspiracy. Wider is a relative term. His use of the term ‘wider’ actually says what happened was a conspiracy. But such things and how they are allowed to occur amongst the “man is to blame pro-AGW” circle again don’t appear inportant to Mr. Monbiot.

“There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request.”

Og dear. George Moniot’s bad hair day.

In his effort to deny at all costs that he has bought into the somewhat ‘good concerned citizen’ thing, Monbiot points out that THERE IS DATA THAT POINTS TO A DECLINE. Once again, a discussion of that data away from all the AGW conspiracy isn’t important to ?Monbiot.

Heck! Isn’t that what is supposed to take centre stage?


I’ll end now by saying. Industrial pollution, pharmaceutical/chemical waste and radioactive pollution are FAR FAR more important that stupid CO2 and AGW > even it is true!

And lastly, not so long ago people were saying the temperature on Mars. Venus was rising and that explains why the earth is experiencing higher temps too. anti-AGW’s never addressed that point.

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