Bridget Dunne, July 7th Campaign, speaks at SCADs conference

The independent  investigator bridget would rather you didn’t know of was Dr Nick Kollerstrom. Nick – while others may have been fixated with power surges – kickstarted the 7/7 truth movement with him uncovering the fact the 7:40am train, which the supposed bombers caught, was actually cancelled that day.

You can see Nick in a recent interview here: http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=72&part=1

Here’s a questioning voice, Paul Taylor, of which I share some views (but I don’t ‘love’ my country)

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85 Responses to “Bridget Dunne, July 7th Campaign, speaks at SCADs conference”


  1. 1 Paul Taylor November 23, 2011 at 2:16 am

    i have no doubt at all that Bridget Dunne is some sort of controlled opposition . I have very bad experiences of the July 7th website as they seem very unwilling to actually find out who is responsible. Sure they do a great job at debunking the official story but why not some pro active attempts to find out WHO DID IT. One way to clear the innocent is to nail the guilty something J7 has no interest in. I have nothing but contempt for Dunne and her ghastly sidekick known by the pseudonym the Antagonist”

    as for Nick Kollerstrum he is a very decent man, abused by the BBC that made a ridiculous hit piece on him. Incidentally they always seem to use the same Jewish female narrator on these conspiracy hit pieces. Both the Conspiracy Files and the Horizon programme on s called Conspiracy theories”had the same narrator who I traced . ( somebody can remind me of her name)

    I am not saying that there is something wrong with being Jewish but it annoys me that a Jewish female should be the BBC voice for a ‘Muzzies dd it’BBC hit piece

  2. 2 Paul Taylor November 23, 2011 at 2:18 am

    When i attempted to post some leads as to the identity of the perps and sayanim who framed Richmal I was met with howls of outrage that I was slandering somebody

    the clue is an obsandgobsfitzy

  3. 3 lwtc247 November 23, 2011 at 4:50 am

    Hi Paul. I understand perfectly when you ask why don’t they make “pro-active attempt to find out WHO DID IT”. I’ve expressed similar sentiments to them myself a number of times. Last time it provoked a rather childlike outburst from one of them. To be fair, I can, to a point, understand why they adopt this peculiar methodology. Their website/forum is very good and perhaps one reason why it is very good is because the methodology they adopted has allowed them to make it good and do the things they have done. Perhaps, if they were to have hypothesised what happened that day and tried to build on it, then it might have have ‘bogged’ them down. Consequently, some stuff they have done may never have occurred.

    To me, their approach (Note: No matter what you think of him, Jesse Ventura does the same thing but about 9/11. Ask him what happened and he says he doesn’t know) appears to have born fruit (just my guess) so well done to them.

    but

    As an early strategy, it was fine, as a later strategy I believe it is crippling. It will (or is beginning to) stagnate things, and to savagely attack those who do a tried and tested method of using the available facts to construct a hypothesis (and subsequently build on their hypothesis), banning people, making false representations and pulling baseless smears out of umm ‘the air’ is very ugly behaviour.

    Actually, what I’ve just said may not be completely true. They do seem to have a hypothesis, one in which Talmudic blessed Israyhell isn’t involved.

    One significant reason why I started blogging is because I heard a radio interview with Bridget Dunne not too long after 7/7 and she ‘appeared’ to roll her eyes (yes, on radio) about suggestions that Zionists did it. Google her and radio host Fintan Dunne.

    They will/do, whether they admit it or not have their own narrative of what happened. No person is with pre-conception or bias.

    As regards what one may call the ‘J7 crowd’, they are rapid at believing certain certain reported events are baseless – or simply ignoring them altogether, but they take as factual other reported events as being true. I don’t know if Tom Secker thinks himself as one of the J7 crowd, I guess he probably does, but Tom dismissed the Canary Wharf shooting reports as unsubstantiated rumour. He’s not too shy at embracing other 7/7 unsubstantiated rumours though. It’s possible the reported events they gloss over are the ones that are used to construct the hypothesis as seen in the 7/7 Ripple Effect.

    I agree NK is a fine upstanding have spent much time in trying to brand him essentially as a holocaust denier and the J7’ers seem to relish bad things that befall certain non J7’ers – like when Nick lost his job on the back of false accusation, oe when MD was imprisoned. I can’t shake this perception that some of the J7’ers are akin to vile school-yard bullies.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being Jewish. Although if your white, you’re probably not actually Jewish. But Khazar conversions aside, it is a fact that most people who identify themselves as Jewish do support the snakey state of Israyhell and most Israyhellis. Zionists and Jews have tried hard to marry Judaism, Israyhell and Zionism together (for reasons not too hard to fathom) hence, sadly, most Jews support Zionism albeit to different extents, and very very few mainstream jouno’s any anything but biased towards Israyhell (their job depends on it) whether the journo is Jewish or not. Great respect to the znti-Zionist Jews.

    Re: Richmall, her death does seem “useful” The outrage it caused is inline with J7’s (perhaps only) holy commandment: Thou shalt not follow any lead or hypothesis connected to the “J/I/Z” words.”. Not sure if I understand your clue however.

  4. 4 Bridget Dunne November 23, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Paul Taylor (thisisyourwakeup) was never banned from the J7 people’s investigation forum – in fact, J7 have never banned any poster.

    As for Richmal Oates-Whitehead, J7 have done all the research on her, and J7 are the only group who wrote about her during the inquests:

    J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: Tavistock Square & the second controlled explosion… of Richmal

    On a personal note, I wrote to my local newspaper and submitted FOI requests way before I’d even heard the name Nick Kollerstrom.

    People think they know the ‘truth’ – J7 prefer facts. One fact is that the alleged ‘bombers’ are now placed on the 7.25 Luton train and not the 7.40 (although Anthony John Hill chose not to state this in 7/7 Ripple Effect):

    J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign Blog: Home Office ‘corrections’ to the July 7th Official Report

  5. 5 Paul Taylor November 23, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    thanks to Bridget for her reply but in fact i was banned in the sense that my public postings were removed to a forum that was password protected. i can see no legitimate reason why my postings should be removed from full view and why must evidence, conjecture research etc be password protected preventing the casual reader from accessing it, any attempt to access my data through google brings up a password page and its not acceptable to me

    Having followed the J7 campaign in the past it was obviously heavily censored by self appointed vigilantes such as the antagonist ( a peculiar choice of name albeit an accurate one ) and the justthefacts who seemed to be US based and very keen to ensure that whatever happened nobody would ever be blamed

    two facts about j7 are glaringly obvious. the first is that Israel is strictly taboo, the second is that the site is well funded

    Bridget can you explain why you are so determined to stifle anybody positing any theories ( with evidence) as to who may be to blame

    can you explain who exactly funds j7?
    can you explain why the decent scholarly Nick Kollerstrum is subjected to J7 odium?
    why do justthefacts and the antagonist hide behind assumed names

    I really am Paul Taylor and you presumably are Bridget Dunne. If justthefacts is so keen on facts why doesn’t he/she/it fully disclose their full name and nationality

    I must point out that until the actual murderers are caught then it is necessary to pursue lines of research that must inevitably include questions to people such as Amiel Billetop who may very well be completely innocent. Such is a normal inquiry and that is by no means a libel or a slander as J7 dishonestly claims

    Like I said j7 is a vital resource and is to be commended but with the enormous caveat that I mentioned in my video

    anyway kudos for reply and thanks to the owner of this blog for her perserverence

    one small thing though, even though i am not a fan of Israel the constant israyhell stuff can be a but annoying. I am not a fan of using derogatory terms such as that which also include Muzzies, towelheads, sand niiggers or any other jocular or offensive nomenclature that may turn the serious issues we discuss into adolescence

  6. 6 Paul Taylor November 23, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    so far as the train times are concerned the Police claimed that ‘witnesses’had seen the men on the 7.40 train which is rather odd when you consider the train never existed. The police cannot backtrack after a year and then claim that it was in fact another train leaving 15 minutes earlier

    even if that was the only discrepancy in the official narrative ( pack of lies) that would make the official version of events totally bogus

    thanks to Nick, David Shayler. John Hill, Tom Secker, Keelan Balderson and many others who refuse to let this matter rest

    and we must not allow anybody including j7 to decide what is taboo, who cannot be touched etc. Until the criminals are nailed then everybody is under suspicion and that must include Israel led by liar Netanyahu ( said by a leading Zionist that indeed is an indictment)

    PS I dont agree with Secker’s position ( apparently) that the killings at Canary Wharf are rumour. They seem well proven by multiple sources and lockdowns, etc

  7. 7 lwtc247 November 23, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    So B. Why wasn’t Pauls take on things allowed? He does have a salient point: about J7T trying to muzzle debate.

    And what exactly is your source of income?

    “I wrote to my local newspaper and submitted FOI requests way before I’d even heard the name Nick Kollerstrom.” I never said you didn’t Bridget. The first line reads “The independent investigator bridget would rather you didn’t know of was Dr Nick Kollerstrom”.

    Personally the inability of the J7T clan to allow different opinions on all this, coupled with childish tantrums and extremely hostile gross smears, is something J7T should seriously change track on, especially given relatively little muck is slung black to whence it came. But I just can’t possibly see that happening. J7’s groove is deep.

    “As for Richmal Oates-Whitehead, J7 have done all the research on her, and J7 are the only group who wrote about her during the inquests:” – so others have written about her before and after the inquests. What point are you trying to make about this anyway?

    Despite J7T’s assertions, I think the vast majority of people adopt a position of taking up a most likely working hypothesis. One that’s subject to change when new information comes to light, and not that they know the ‘truth’. Expression to the contrary seem like one of J7T’s favourite aunt sallies. I think I have seen an interview where Muad’dib (one person) claims it is the truth, and if so, I and I’m sure most others don’t share his assertion. I know Nick Kollerstrom speaks of it as only being a likely scenario. That’s an aunt sally the general thrust of 7/7 Ripple Effect may well have (?) captured the has whether . That’s certainly true of what I’ve seen amongst don’t think most says they know the truth.

    P.S. Paul.
    I uses the term Israyhell for a number of reasons, ‘as an insult’ isn’t one of them. This baloney ‘state’ which Orwellian-like, claims that it is somehow the re-birth of a once divinely granted glorious state, has not a shred of legitimacy in my eyes, so much so that I can’t bring myself to give it the label it desires. And for the millions it’s ethnically cleansed and possibly millons it’s slaughtered Israyhell is indeed a fitting moniker.

    “we must not allow anybody including j7 to decide what is taboo” – agree 100% but such ideas I doubt will penetrate their skulls. They seem the only July 7th truth movement that isn’t prepared to just drop the slander and division. that I believe is classic sign.

    Re: possible killings at Canary Wharf. I don’t think they should be dismissed as rumour either. Tom falls from his rather high perch on that one, and although he’s entitled to get some gander up about it, it’s good to see him avoiding flinging snide remarks to those who don’t dismiss them. A lesson for J7T me thinks.

  8. 8 Paul Taylor November 25, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    no comments on funding from Bridget? maybe the israeli embassy are arranging a front charity as we speak lol

  9. 9 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Thing is Paul, say if they were Govt/Israyhelli sponsored – would they admit it? Doubtful. Any admission would of course be in characteristic sarcasm mode and the answer would probably include the tried and tested space newts, Plaent X, 4th dimensional lizards and of course some messiah references (and yes, it is rather long in the tooth, but no doubt makes them chuckle)

    But also, if they aren’t actually funded by those terrible two, then naturally they’d say “No, we are not funded by the govt/Israyhell.

    In the end we’d just end up thinking whatever we though of them before.

    I have issues with them and so apparently do you. I would appeal to you to just let them be. It is entirely possible that they are they say on the tin (or rather, the are what is implied on the tin) i.e. a genuine bona fide citizens enquiry group. As their own group surely they are entitled to do things their way, whether we agree with them or not – and as it just so happens, on a few things I’ve disagreed with them, vented my spleen, had a rather fierce response, but I have to accept they don’t have to see things my way, or indeed anyone else’s way.

    You must admit, all the false messiah stuff is a lot more dodgy than them being possible agents of the state etc.

    Their holy commandment Re: israyhell, is very frustrating to me. I think they are making a serious error in their downplaying / dismissing that avenue. I could spend hours in thought leading to contempt at that and begin to let my mind think a number of things about them, but I think we should just watch what happens.

    Yes, I know they J7T do this a lot about a number of people not in their camp, but It’s not getting anywhere. Hence my appeal to you and to them to just agree to do your own thing and try when applicable to help each other out.

    That also goes to the makers of alternative narratives. In-between the ridicule, the flaws (as J7T’ers believe them to be) as pointed out should be seriously examines and acted on accordingly, for instance giving caveats about a handler and so on.Tom Secker does this a lot and I think it’s the correct thing to do. Sadly J7T’s seem just a touch too arrogant to listen to anyone else’s view but all this needs saying. Maybe they’ll have tone down their fire a bit.

    What does all this “your a govt agent” agent do? I think the best way to deal with moles/plants/spooks etc, is take the good stuff they do and leave out any possibly hooky suff. You largely nullify their cause by doing that.

    Having said all that they still should reveal how they afford the money and time to do all that they do.

  10. 10 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Funding? Members and supporters – you are also very welcome to donate via the paypal link on the J7 website.

    J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign – The People’s Independent Public Inquiry into 7/7

    As you are both so far off the mark in your accusations against J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign it only leads me to believe that your methods of analysis and research are similarly deeply flawed. Preferring unsubstantiated allegations and throwing as much shit around to see what can stick – neither do you take any responsibility for the damage you cause to 7/7 Truth. LWTC247 does not use his ‘real’ name but Paul ignores this and it is my name which is undeservedly dragged through your mud.

    Why not ask Anthony John Hill who made and financed his films? Why was 7/7 Ripple Effect released just prior to the BBC contacting J7 for its 7/7 CF hatchet job? Why was his trial timed to coincide with the end of the 7/7 Inquests thus drowning out the fact that the Inquests into the 4 accused were refused? Why did NK write about swimming pools and holiday camps on a holocaust denial site whilst at the same time cooperating with the BBC despite knowing that J7 had refused to be a part of this circus ? Why did NK attempt to pass himself off as a J7 researcher to be filmed for the BBC? Why did NK copy huge swathes of the J7 website and Inquests blog and claim this was his own independent research?

    To get anywhere near the truth we have to ask the right questions not proffer the wrong answers – you fail to ask the right questions because you are both content with the answers you make up for yourselves. That way just lies confirmation bias rather than truth.

    Nuff said. .

    • 11 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 10:27 am

      nuffsaid is a top rated UK 911 researcher, anyway to your points, many people are frightened to identify themselves as they can be attacked , that is why Nick has suffered financially for his 77 work. J7 research is not a monopoly and you cannot really claim it as a trademark, ho are you to decide and by what authority to you claim the sole jurisdiction in July 7th research

      anybody who publicly identifies the most likely suspect in 911 and 77 gets attacked or murdered. this can range from losing your job , or death in a car crash or a suicide

      recent examples include danny Jowenko, Jorge haider and David Kelly nd Sean Hoare

      i am taking a very real risk by going public with my identity but we cant all hide can we, some of us must stand up and be counted. I really wish i didn’t have to spend so much time on this issue as i would like to think about flowers and kitty cats but there are mass murderers on the lose and the Police are not interested in arresting them

      now can you identify the Tom net to you, does not sound like Tom Secker but he hardly said a word and why do you need the anonymous Antagonist and Justthefacts and why are you allowing US based cyber stalkers to block me on your website?

      anyway please answer the points i make as you either ignore them or reply with some generalisation

  11. 13 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    One last thing, J7 offer at least 9 possible hypotheses on what might have happened that day:

    J7: July 7th Alternative Hypotheses Index – What else might have happened?

    We have also taken Paul Stott to task for his dismissal of Israeli connections to 7/7 (to which he has failed to respond):

    J7 Response to Paul Stott’s paper: Half Truth Movement: How The 9/11 Cult Falsifies History

  12. 14 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Well B, I am not part of a group that makes official contact with herr mudjesty’s govt, my non de plume, lwtc247, as used here on this blog is therefore kind of different (but admittedly not much). My “accusatons” as you call them, i.e. that you are using a methodology of investigation that has little if any precedent in “investigation” and that you do not examine the Israyhell dimension are not false at all.

    “As you are both so far off the mark in your accusations against J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign it only leads me to believe that your methods of analysis and research are similarly deeply flawed.” – so as you are off the mark about me and I’ve seen you far off the mark about NK, it only leads me to believe that your methods of analysis and research are deeply flawed.

    There. That really moved us forwards didn’t it. I’m sure the truth of what happened in July 2005 is just around the corner now!

    Indeed as we are asking these Q’s about J7T, we should also ask them of JAH. Although I don’t think the other questions B asks hold any significance.

    “Why did NK write about swimming pools and holiday camps on a holocaust denial site” – The pools were probably for SS officers. I don’t think NK was saying it was to give a Butlins experience to the happy camper inmates. And there were/are(?) pools there aren’t’ there? You said “holiday camps” – any proof of that B? I doubt it. VERY much.

    “Why did NK attempt to pass himself off as a J7 researcher to be filmed for the BBC?” – Errrrm because he is a July 7th researcher? – Just a guess you understand, unless you have a registered trademark you can show us.

    “Why did NK copy huge swathes of the J7 website and Inquests blog and claim this was his own independent research? ” – such as…? and where is the claim in relation to the stuff you say was “yours” – Do you even ‘own’ it?

    you fail to ask the right questions because you are both content with the answers you make up for yourselves. ” – on the contrary Bridget. I have loads of questions – many relating to Israyhell and why J7T don’t concern themselves with asking those very questions, pressing the govt for answers, and in fact stifle such questions.

    Actually, I hope we crossed threads just now and you didn’t read what I said in my last comment. I hope someone would agree with me that this bickering doesn’t help at all.

    I’ll end this post by re-iterating JAH should be open about where his funding comes from.

  13. 15 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    P.S. Paul. Would you agree with me that the sheer amount of work J7T have done suggests they are a real citizens research group? Albeit a group that is utterly blind to it’s own shortcomings and perhaps ego?

  14. 16 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    It is very clear that you are content to pontificate without knowing any of the facts:

    Fri, 13 Jun 2008 4:22 PM
    From “J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign”
    To “Tristan Quinn”
    Cc mike.rudin@bbc.co.uk
    Subject Nick Kollerstrom 7/7 Conspiracy Files

    Dear Tristan

    We recently became aware of a meeting to be held in London on 25th June which you were intending to film for the 7/7 Conspiracy Files programme you are making with Nick Kollerstrom. We were appalled to find that the flyer for this meeting developed by the UK 911 Truth Movement, without our knowledge or consent, advertised a ‘J7 researcher’ and included a link to our website when no member of J7 knew of the meeting, much less agreed to appear at it. It transpires that this alleged ‘J7 researcher’ would appear to be one Nick Kollerstrom.

    As the BBC has a duty with respect to the accuracy of facts presented to its viewing public, please be informed that Nick Kollerstrom is not a member of J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign and therefore cannot be classed as a J7 researcher. Kollerstrom is, if anything, a 9/11 researcher who belongs to the 9/11 Truth Movement UK & Ireland and it is with the operations of that group that Kollerstrom is involved with at a high level.

    Over the last few months, Nick has been contacting various members of J7, mostly for information that would be in his possession if he were indeed a serious researcher into the events of 7/7, but also to arrange to collect J7 leaflets. It now transpires that he attended Leeds with your film crew, presumably with J7 leaflets in hand, where he attempted to make contact with the families of the accused.

    These events lead us to suspect that efforts are being made either by or for your production to somehow conflate Kollerstrom with J7.

    Surprisingly enough, not everyone that has questions about the events of 7/7 is a member of J7 and for the BBC to portray otherwise would be a new level of disingenuousness.

    We would like an assurance from you that your Conspiracy Files programme will not be referring to J7 in relation to Kollerstrom or any other researcher.

    Regards
    J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign

    J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign | J7 Refuse BBC Conspiracy Files Offer

    Sounds rather like a holiday camp:

    NK wrote: “Let us hope the schoolchildren visitors are properly taught about the elegant swimming-pool at Auschwitz, built by the inmates, who would sunbathe there on Saturday and Sunday afternoons while watching the water-polo matches; and shown the paintings from its art class, which still exist; and told about the camp library which had some forty-five thousand volumes for inmates to choose from, plus a range of periodicals; and the six camp orchestras at Auschwitz/Birkenau, its theatrical performances, including a children’s opera, the weekly camp cinema, and even the special brothel established there. Let’s hope they are shown postcards written from Auschwitz, some of which still exist, where the postman would collect the mail twice-weekly. Thus the past may not always be quite, as we were told.”

    As for copyright, we publish research and articles on a fair use basis which requires a link back to the original source, when copying the J7 website for his ToTT (I know he did because he told me so) he publishes it under his own copyright as if he researched and wrote it.

    Again you fling accusations around with no proof or evidence.

    I would prefer to not ‘bicker’ as you claim, but I really think the damage your accusations do to a genuine group of citizen researchers requires challenging.

  15. 17 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    B.
    Absolutely nothing of what you post show NK is responsible for what the BBC said he was. I am a J7 researcher. Paul Taylor is a J7 researcher. We are not however July 7th Truth Campaign researchers, or “J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign” as you specifically called it in your letter.

    You know perfectly well the s_heads at the BBC don’t give a toss about accuracy – in fact they seem to go out of their way to be inaccurate vis-a-vis J7. You’re just blaming NK ‘cos your own rather bizarre hate pre-disposes you to believe the worst about him.

    “…therefore cannot be classed as a J7 researcher” – that’s just the same level bollocks the BBC dole out. What ego’s you guys must have to believe you have the power to declare who is a J7 researcher and who isn’t. It leads to the reasonable question are the J7T clan simply on an ego trip? The circumstantial evidence on which an answer to that Q may be given, makes me shudder.

    Plus, questions that you don’t like aren’t accusations simply because you call them such.

    I’ve said J7T stifle the discussion of the Israyhell dimension
    and you are employing a methodology that is unproven and will eventually pass its use by date and have to change. So there’s nothing wrong with what I said. It’s not accusative either – rather demonstrable and blindingly obvious to anyone that’s been turned into a dartboard by mentioning these things on your forum etc.
    (Perhaps I forgot to mention baseless libellous smears, but I don’t want to. I want the pot to simmer down. Perhaps a fruitless hope)

    Other than that,

    NK wrote: – any chance of a reference to that which you clearly attribute to Nick Kollestrom? Granted what is written there certainly does seem weird, but I put it to you that ‘building the pool’ and ‘watching the water-polo matches’ are certainly not going to be in the context of lazy summer days and taking time off from the weapons line, however the text does indeed in places make me think the author is in fact saying ‘things were not all that bad there’, which clearly is very VERY wrong. The other things like brothel etc are most likely to be for the Camp officers (there’s no clear mention of the disposable slaves being able to use that facility at their leisure. It was the officers and perhaps guards that would probably (in effect) be raping/having the inmates or some other unfortunate person holed up there. The paragraph is acutely insensitive and almost certainly WRONG. After you give the referecene I will try and ask him if those are his words and beliefs.

  16. 18 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    NK’s article is contained within this pdf: “School Trips to Auschwitz”

    So J7 not 7/7 researcher? How weird. I class myself as a 7/7 researcher and a J7 member. That NK was on a leaflet for a talk with a link to the J7 website and as a J7 researcher to be filmed for the BBC (Tristram Quinn virtually begged J7 to cooperate with him after we refused) was not odd? NK was also friendly with Michelle Renouf (see here) who is herself an extreme right wing figure.

    As NK wrote the CODOH article whilst cooperating with the BBC, one has to wonder why.

    Could you also check the links I posted (such as the response to Paul Stott) before continuing your unfounded accusations against J7.

  17. 19 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    NK’s father was also groomed as the ‘second coming’ in much the way that Anthony John Hill claims that the Nakba (he was born in 1948) was the sign of his impending Messiahdom as the rightful King of Britain and Israel. NK has links to Theosophy.

  18. 20 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Thanks for the reference. I note the contentious paragraph has Nick quoting reference (7) [ http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4332 ], which says those things. So finally can lay to rest that those are not NK’s words.

    You have no power whatsoever to exclusively claim the abbreviation J7 is the sole property of The July 7th Truth Campaign. Anyone researching the bombings of July 7 2005 can be described as a J7 researcher. There is NO evidence at all that shows NK tried to pass himself off as a member of the The July 7th Truth Campaign.

    You’ve no need to repeat those two factoids again.

    It seems to me that after the BBC’s “begging” for the J7TC to take part, which was correctly met with refusal, then maybe the one that tried to associate NK with the J7TC (in indeed there was any such attempt) was the BBC itself, or, the person designing the leaflet may be responsible – or you may have simply wrongly made a connection that may not have been intended. My suspicions lie with the tacky BBC.

    “NK wrote the CODOH article whilst cooperating with the BBC” – now there an invented connection if ever I’ve heard one. He probably tied his shoe laces whilst cooperating with the BBC too. What’s your point? Are you really surprised that a tiny few others throw this kinds of stuff out at you?

    I am very familiar with the Paul Stott report. You may notice I have a link to it and have done so since I came across the article. You may even try reading both comments left there. I even made a back-up of the article just in case it went missing. But is that the extent matters Israyhell stretch to? The journey of a 1000 miles isn’t completed with the first step. Given what’s written there shouldn’t there be a follow up?

    You’ll have to forgive me about not wanting rush out and throw holy water on NK after reading that stuff about the Kollestrom family. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. There’s a wee bit more that needs to come before I do a J7TC and accept the sanctity of what the anon poster wrote and copied onto your forum.

    I’ve an interest in similar matters however, so I will make some enquiries. This “I am the messiah” stuff does grate me – and actually it gets worsw the more it goes on. But I don’t see NK as being guilty of anything which some anon poster attributes to his family over 100 years ago. I don’t think the son is not responsible for he sins of the father.

    And that NK may be in some astrological thing… hardly the same thing as having an inverted pentagram carved into his flesh while prostrating as above so below. I it?

    I find your hatred of NK so irrational it implies J7TC and clan have a motive.

    Good effort on the reconciliation front btw.

  19. 21 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    The CODOH article was written by NK. Your need to protect & champion NK is rather extreme but that’s your choice. Hatred? No, just that 7/7 Truth ended up being conflated with Holocaust denial via the BBC and NK’s collaboration with them.

    What I posted was evidential and factual – none of it conjecture or slander – how you process that information is purely down to you.

  20. 22 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Oh for pity’s sake Bridget.
    NK is reporting what the author in reference (7) writes.

    Any conflation is the work of the BBC.

    I’m sure a straw poll would reveal that anyone who knew or cared about The J7TC know perfectly well The J7TC has nothing to do with the pathetic ‘conspiracy files.

  21. 23 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    NK is reporting what the author in reference (7) writes. NK was referencing his own article on the CODOH forum – that is a fact and you can ask him. This was his original CODOH post where he paints the jolly picture of Auschwitz:

    School trips to Auschwitz

    What is plain from this thread is that you are more than willing to pronounce on subjects that you have no knowledge of in the mistaken belief that you must be right.

  22. 24 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Bridget. It certainly is NOT what you wrongly describe as the “original” because the article says at the end, QUOTE: “This article was first published in slightly different form in Smith’s Report No. 148, March 2008.” ENDQUOTE and article 148 has the reference (7) in it.

    It’s plain from this thread you are simply wrong. But hey, your human.

  23. 25 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    NK wrote the swimming pool/art classes/post cards. Check. End of.

  24. 26 lwtc247 November 25, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Wrong again B.
    The pool stuff seems to originate from Marc Klein, professor at the Strasbourg medicine faculty, whose work was apparently scrutinised by Robert Weil, professor of science at Sarreguemines lycée who had been interned in the camps.
    etc etc.

  25. 27 Bridget Dunne November 25, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    No one said it originated from NK – a man who is incapable of carrying out original or independent research – but he wrote this in as much as he chose the words to put together into sentences and paragraphs. The tone of ‘jolly japes’ is entirely NK’s. I find it interesting that he chose to write this at the same time as he was working with the BBC on the Conspiracy Files. Strange timing – and then he gets outed on the same programme.

    As for ‘seems’ and ‘apparently’ in your reply this reminds me of the language of the official narrative.

    Getting back to the opening para of your post, it was James Stewart of Financial Outrage who originally posted the Luton timetable on his website in August 2005. NK doesn’t mention him too often:

    Financial OUTRAGE TIMETABLE ACTUAL TIMES

  26. 29 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 5:29 am

    the holocaust is a red herring issue , totally irrelevant. 911 and 77 need to be discussed on their merits not by reference to tangential issues such as UFOs crop circles or the holocaust. In my opinion the holocaust is a fair topic for debate and analysis and NOBODY has the moral right to demand that it become a taboo topic or off limits for research. the very fact that Zionists have made the topic illegal in some jurisdictions ( the only event in history that it is verboten to discuss ) is highly suspicious in my view but regardless of Nick’s views on the holocaust his views on both 911 and 77 bare spot on.

    I also find it very hard to imagine j7 can survive on random donations from the public. My guess is that there was significant start up funds because after 6 years there cant be many people willing to donate to a cause that seems to be going nowhere

    we also know that just like the 911 commission the perps can usually set up a bogus or devious front research to collate information and then either throw researchers off the track or simply refuse to deal with it just like my Amiel Billetop lead

    j7 is going nowhere and why the hell do you password protect anything, why not allow full disclosure after all my views or nicks never pretended to be the official views of J7 ( and indeed how can you have official views anyway) why not simply allow yourself to be a meeting point for all research , evidence and leads that MAY lead to the truth.

    using the twisted logic of j7 then a policeman would not be able to ask a suspect any questions as that would be construed as a slander and putting the person under suspicion

    There is NO OTHER WAY

    PS who is that bearded oaf flanking Bridget in the picture. Is that the antagonist? or a bouncer hired from Liverpool job centre

  27. 30 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 5:35 am

    sorry if thats Tom Secker he has my respect , i am watching that video , previously i had just read the dialogue , anyway this is my serious error and i am happy to eat humble pie

  28. 31 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 5:55 am

    Bridget Dunne has a lot of facts at her disposal and runs an outstanding website, that cannot be taken away from her but as a public speaker she is soporific

    somehow she sounds unmotivated and passionless, surely anger is a legitimate quality when dealing with state sponsored terror but Bridget sounds like she is reading a shipping forecast

    maybe I can volunteer to jazz up proceedings because I would be surprised if the audience can stay awake

  29. 32 lwtc247 November 26, 2011 at 6:06 am

    “The holocaust is a red herring issue , totally irrelevant. 911 and 77 need to be discussed on their merits not by reference to tangential issues such as UFOs crop circles or the holocaust…but regardless of Nick’s views on the holocaust his views on both 911 and 77 bare spot on”

    I agree Paul. That’s why I can just about ignore the messiah claims – as they don’t impinge on the discussion of 9/11 or 7/7. The J7TM know this – of course – so a question mark hangs above them for their dogged pursuit of these diversionary ummm actions.

    On their funding, I imagine a fair amount comes out of their own pockets, but as to where the time to do it all comes from, is more difficult to imagine.

    Paul: Re: Amiel Billetop. This name is unfamiliar to me and J7T – as you know – have blocked the page with a reference to it. Could you elaborate or link?

    The antagonist supposedly has black hair according to some newspaper reporter.

    P.S. Paul. do you have a website?

  30. 35 Bridget Dunne November 26, 2011 at 9:09 am

    It is now very apparent that you both share a hatred for J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign which overshadows any ability for critical analysis.

    I hope you will both be very happy in your new found friendship where you can swap theories on why ordinary citizens can’t possibly have joined together to create this campaign.

    I’ll finish by contending that without 7/7 Ripple Effect and NK’s jolly holiday camp scenarios the BBC and the MSM could not have conducted their hatchet job on 7/7 truth. They also angered and alienated relatives of the victims for which J7 were often blamed. It really doesn’t matter what we think when millions will have read and heard these stories:

    The BBC defended its use of Dr Kollerstrom and stressed it only paid expenses such as the £8 train fare to Luton, where he filmed an interview for the programme.

    A spokesman said: ‘The Conspiracy Files series investigates whether there is any truth to the many conspiracy theories which have grown up around terrorist attacks.

    ‘Nick Kollerstrom has advanced a number of theories which will be investigated in detail by the BBC. His view of the Holocaust will be scrutinised in the programme. He has not been paid by the BBC.’

    Relatives’ fury as BBC pays expenses to Holocaust denier who ‘pestered bereaved families after the 7/7 bombing’ | Mail Online

  31. 36 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 9:22 am

    Bridget you offend me with the use of the offended relatives ruse. this was tried by the conspiracy road trip where a heavily made up Alice Hoagland who is touted as Mark Bingham’s mother ( a gay rugby player no less) is terribly upset that somebody should question the official narrative. The fact that Bridget seems to agree with this canard is very revealing? s it offensive to the victims that we try and find out who did it and not blindly follow the stated narrative of Rupert Murdoch , Tony Blair etc? I think not the truth should not fear investigation

    Bridget can i ask what you did prior to j7, what was your career and did you campaign for or against something because your bona fides require a background check, Have you received any payments from any institutions or lobbyists a la Adam Werrity. or do you claim all your money comes from pensioners sending a fiver.

    also who is the bearded Tom in the video and why do you need some burly bearded bloke next to you when you are giving your presentation

  32. 37 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 9:30 am

    the fact that Bridget Dunne uses the daily mail as back up is in itself revealing , however i do admit the Mail has a more relaxed policy on printing comments than the Guardian whose comment is free section is VERY HEAVILY CENSORED using the BS word ‘Moderation’

    they totally wiped out dozens of comments I made under anticensorship and anticensorship2 and the reason they do it is to drive away people who are getting too close to the truth and keep the debate as kosher as possible

    This is why both j7 and the Guardian are in fear of upsetting Israel knowing that if they get too uppity they may qualify for a bit of the Boston brakes or a suicide etc

  33. 38 lwtc247 November 26, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Bridget. Once again you are wrong. It’s a very strange phenomenon you exhibit whereby you consistently roll a 1.

    You confirm my thoughts that none of you can stand anything that doesn’t tickle your fancy.

    I dont’t hate The J7TC at all. Far from it, but neither will I drop the bar of soap for it, nor will I submit to it’s unrelenting ambiguity or it’s glossing over of the Israyhell dimension.

    It is very sad that you choose to ignore all I written here and in the past in support and praise of The J7TC (as well as that coming from a few others battered and bruised at J7TC’s hands)

    That J7TC appears to relish insulting, smearing and ultimately trying to alienate it’s natural and would be sizeable (and definitely ‘needed’) support base, and that you absolutely refuse to reflect upon this fills me with dismay.

    Consequently, J7TC are offering a parallel to these multiple messiah syndromes which just turn people off. Your little factoids, libel and ridicule, ostracising those that don’t worship the ego smoothed ground you walk on is unsightly.

    It’s also sad The J7TC’s policy of zero tolerance (for anything other than it’s own shortcomings) has you pummel reconciliation and leave it for dead.

  34. 40 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 11:05 am

    ok so he is not from the job centre, well done Tom and many thanks for the link , I also commend the outstanding work you did debunking the bloody awful establishment stooge Paul Stott

  35. 41 Paul Taylor November 26, 2011 at 11:42 am

    am i going to be accused of being a holocaust denier or a kitty killer if I strongly suspect that Paul Stott is Jewish. His enthusiasm to blame Muslims is rather striking and reminds me of another fake researcher David Aaronovich who wrote a stupid book called Voodoo History that pretends to suggest that 911 and Elvis Presley sightings are somehow equivalent

  36. 42 lwtc247 November 26, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    He could be a Shabbos goy.
    David Aaronovich the panto journalist serves as a good benchmark as to how low the UK has sunk.

  37. 43 Paul Taylor November 27, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    bridget what is your background. What did you do pre j7. have you ever worked in any capacity for the UK ‘security’services for example?

  38. 44 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 5:05 am

    no reply from Bridget. I suppose this is a kind of admissionj

    • 45 lwtc247 November 30, 2011 at 6:11 am

      Paul. While it may be slightly tempting to treat the silence as an admission, it would not be right to do so. She may be away, or tired of visiting my blog etc, and if she was wretched enough to be working on behalf of this disgraced political establishment, then she would likely have no qualms about lying.

      Although she’s unrelenting in sticking to her views (including the rejection of those she has previously decided to reject), I do actually appreciate the time she does take out to at least get involved in some of these discussions/arguments. It’s not too hard for me to imagine being in her shoes. I’d probably be defensive too (although to that degree..???)

      Anyway, I doubt it benefits anyone to look on The J7TC as anything but a source of information which can be used to discredit the silly govt narrative and (as they will have to do eventually) adopt a new one – the truth of what happened – which is what J7 call for (that consequence seems to have passed them by). Trying not to get into the personalities is quite productive I find. And if info/any analysis is tainted, then it can be put to the side. Getting into personalities (debates.slanging matches – there is a high correlation etc) is vastly time consuming. It’s quite unlikely any ordinary person would categorically be able to identify a mole.

      That’s my thoughts anyhows.

  39. 46 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 7:37 am

    why cant she take 5 minutes to tell us exactly how she has been making her living all these years. I have been a teacher, a van driver, a mini cab driver, a salesman, an estate agent, etc etc

    what has Bridget been doing and why cant she tell us. I suspect she is on gov payroll

  40. 47 lwtc247 November 30, 2011 at 7:52 am

    perhaps she is, but she may also avoid answering in order to be deliberately antagonistic.

  41. 48 Bridget Dunne November 30, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I didn’t want to dignify your accusatory questioning with an answer, although any genuine researcher could have found out what I have been doing for many years as it has been in the public domain since 2006:

    Mark Honigsbaum on the conspiracy theories of 7/7 | UK news | The Guardian

    The J7TC of course are made up of many ordinary caring citizens such as myself who have taken the time and effort, at much personal sacrifice, to research and campaign for the truth of the events of 7/7. This included lengthy interventions into the 7/7 Inquests on behalf of 7/7 truth and the families of the four accused:

    J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign – J7 Submissions to the 7 July Inquests

    Paul Taylor, on the other hand, is a totally unknown quantity and has done no 7/7 research worthy of the name and has made efforts to
    attempt to discredit the campaign. lwtc247 is an unknown blogger who also attacks the J7TC and myself (just read the tone of this blog post).

    Who do you think you help with your continued smears and accusations? Are neither of you concerned that you damage the campaign due to petty considerations and hurt egos rather than for any evidential and factual reasons?

    For myself, I bother to counter accusations as I believe the only path to truth is via truth and I won’t let lies stand unchallenged. Now, can I end these here as I have far more important issues to deal with.

    • 49 lwtc247 November 30, 2011 at 11:40 am

      “lwtc247 is an unknown blogger who also attacks the J7TC and myself (just read the tone of this blog post). ” – still rolling 1’s eh B?

      My few disagreements with J7TC are fully in the open, they are perfectly valid and arise from a difference in opinion – whether or not you find that impossible to accept; They are quite different from the dagger dripping in blood you seem to want them to be.

  42. 50 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Mark Honingsbaum oh vey

    anyway as i ask you a straight question why not give a straight answer. it is consistent with 7th July research to ask who the gatekeepers are and how they are funded and what they did before they became 7th July investigators research it is indeed difficult to conduct meaningful original research from mainland China. However there is no need for me to research you as you are supposed to be one of the good guys. You are not a Peter Power are you? on the subject of what you laughably call the public domain maybe you can re instate my posts that i previously made on j7 to the ‘public domain’

    fact is you censor, fact is you equivocate, fact is you could just answer I was a librarian but you choose to prattle on about how busy you are. If you were truly busy you could simply answer straight

    what are you hiding?
    you must understand that it is a legitimate worry for us to worry that J7 is a sort of warren commission or 911 commission style org. This may not be true but I think we are fully entitled to worry about it

    on a more positive note i thank you for eventually replying but you did it in a very obtuse and long winded and frankly murky way

  43. 51 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I never claimed to have done any original research ( apart from my Amiel Billetop lead that you studiously ignore) how can i when I am China based. However i review the data and see if i can make some sense of it

    even though i credit you with replying in reasonably polite language there is something here that just seems wrong. I just do not believe you are truly índependent’

    you are constrained, you have parameters, what is really going on with J7?

  44. 52 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 11:47 am

    with respect a Camden ‘foster carer’is kind of an unsual background to be a false flag terror events investigator. As you know 99% of people who follow this topic are male. a foster carer is the sort of Úrban Moving systems’ type job. kind of a cover. How can we know what you are up to whan you are alegedly at home looking after the ‘kids’. with all due respect but if the security services were looking for a cover job for you thats EXACTLY the type of job they would choose.
    If you worked in the WH Smith checkout for the last ten years that would be a lot less suspicious.

    also camden town, i know it well I used to go to that crappy haverstock school. I wouldnt be at all surprised if thats where Mark Honingsbaum also lives you get my drift Bridget

    so many questions, so few answers

    something does not add up at j7 and I am not talking about your faulty calculator

  45. 53 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Mark Honigsbaum
    The Guardian, Monday 26 June 2006
    Article history

    11 months after 7th July they call it history , a bit early to call it history methinks or has it already been consigned to the fait accompli section

  46. 54 lwtc247 November 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Paul. The real ones to be wary of are normally the ones that lurk in the shadows, directing things, trying hard to lay false trails and panic when the real culprits are put in the spotlight.

    B is a lot more open to discussion/answering questions than others, e.g. I saw her some time ago on Kevboyles “NO ONE TO VOTE FOR” praiseworthy site (kev also posed the question of them being controlled opposition). Personally I wouldn’t think it fair to accuse her of anything other than her obvious human failings (we all have).

    And I do think B has a point. Even if The J7TC camp does contain a mole/s, bickering with them on an individual level won’t achieve anything. Although that doesn’t stop them bickering with others interested in J7 truth. And if ones suspicions of J7’ers are wrong, one will have done a disservice to the J7 cause.

    I’ll continue to broadly support J7TC despite registered concerns – which they have engraved in stone, and try to refrain in anything other than logical & healthy sceptical debate.

  47. 55 Paul Taylor November 30, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    is the antagonist also a foster carer, what is the job of justhefacts? helping old ladies to cross the road?

    i also have some questions about Mark Honigsbaum, kind of wonder why a Jewish journalist should be sent to cover an event . where was he born. I was born in hammersmith. I think Mark may have been born overseas.

    i get the feeling that the script for what to tell the public was already written

    i think Bridget was lined up to quickly become the voice of ‘research’along with the ghastly Rachel North, reading about her rape while getting blown up

    yeah right

  48. 56 lwtc247 November 30, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    LOL. Not sure about the antagonist. He seems very unwilling to reveal anything about himself. Same for justhefacts.

    Re: Honigsbaum, I’m not sure why a Jewish journalist would or wouldn’t be sent, i.e. what would his ‘religion’ have to do with it?

    Actually If anything, and there was a kinda of ‘opportunity’ of a propaganda exercise was intended (with inside knowledge of 7/7 or otherwise) then it may have make sense to send him – would it not. “We’re all in this together” said the Jewish(read Zionist) journo. But don’t think I can see much meaningful about his possible Jewishness. I’ll give him the benefit of any doubt (at least any of my doubt) that he just happened to be Jewish. Of course I could be wrong, and I find that he could be Jewish a bit intriguing, but I’m lacking any ‘conspiratorial’ evidence. I don’t want to be suspicious of people just because they are Jewish. If Honigsbaum is a rabid Honigsbaum then yes, his loyalty to Israyhell will likely outweigh anything else.

    “i get the feeling that the script for what to tell the public was already written” – Well, if it was a false flag, which to me it almost certainly was, then to expect some ‘useful’ but non-specific tip-offs / advice on what to do via ‘rehearsal exercises/simulations’ would not be unexpected.

    Pretty much with you on the RN thing.

  49. 57 Paul Taylor December 1, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Report: Germany probes if Iran pondering attacks

    BERLIN (AP) — German media are reporting that prosecutors are investigating suspicions that

    Iran might be planning attacks on American targets in the country.
    Der Spiegel magazine cited head federal prosecutor Harald Range on Thursday as saying

    prosecutors are investigating whether Iran may be planning attacks on U.S. military

    facilities in the event of an American attack on Iran. Federal police head Joerg Ziercke

    said there is no immediate danger.
    Neither Range nor Ziercke’s office will comment further. The U.S. Embassy and U.S. military

    say they are aware of the report but it’s against policy to comment on security measures.
    The Iranian Embassy could not be reached by phone and did not return an email request for

    comment.
    Germany is home to many U.S. military facilities, including the Ramstein and Spangdahlem

    air bases.

    The U.S. has overthrown their govt to install our own puppet dictator, assisted Iran’s

    enemies during times of war both financially and militarily which is in itself a

    declaration of war, and we have occupied Mecca for decades, not to mention dropping bombs

    for the past 15 years all over the middle east. Don’t forget the missile defense shield

    that surrounds all of Iran’s inland borders and a huge section of China.

    Wake up people, or you will get your war.

    JustTheFactsPlease • Spokane, United States • 21 minutes ago Report Abuse
    Not a fan-
    You’ll find that all over these blogs. Kids trying to engage in adult conversation and fabricating things in their little minds. Just consider his rambling as insignificant and immature. Then just laugh it off, it deserves no further attention.

    Looking for truth replied

    Not a fan and Just the Facts. You guys are the shills for Israel, no? The Israeli #$%$ is coming apart, due to the internet. The mainstream media is largely owned by Jews. Also, 911 was an inside job. Google Lucky Larry Silverstein and Building 7. You will be enlightened.

    JustTheFactsPlease
    This person has hidden their profile.

    justthefacts you are BUSTED

    this is from the following yahoo page

    http://news.yahoo.com/report-germany-probes-iran-pondering-attacks-134733293.html;_ylt=AqfJd7wvBepVEHKLYSJln8R0bBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0dWRwOGt2BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIEV1cm9wZVNTRgRwa2cDYjFiOWU5MzYtNDk4Zi0zYjQxLThkNzItMzdiYmFlMWI5NDBhBHBvcwM4BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2JmZjFjNTkwLTFjMmItMTFlMS1iZGJiLTcxN2QxYWI5NmU2Mg–;_ylg=X3oDMTIwZ2J1NzRyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxldXJvcGUEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnMEdGVzdAM-;_ylv=3

  50. 58 Paul Taylor December 1, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Report: Germany probes if Iran pondering attacks

    BERLIN (AP) — German media are reporting that prosecutors are investigating suspicions that

    Iran might be planning attacks on American targets in the country.
    Der Spiegel magazine cited head federal prosecutor Harald Range on Thursday as saying

    prosecutors are investigating whether Iran may be planning attacks on U.S. military

    facilities in the event of an American attack on Iran. Federal police head Joerg Ziercke

    said there is no immediate danger.
    Neither Range nor Ziercke’s office will comment further. The U.S. Embassy and U.S. military

    say they are aware of the report but it’s against policy to comment on security measures.
    The Iranian Embassy could not be reached by phone and did not return an email request for

    comment.
    Germany is home to many U.S. military facilities, including the Ramstein and Spangdahlem

    air bases.

    The U.S. has overthrown their govt to install our own puppet dictator, assisted Iran’s

    enemies during times of war both financially and militarily which is in itself a

    declaration of war, and we have occupied Mecca for decades, not to mention dropping bombs

    for the past 15 years all over the middle east. Don’t forget the missile defense shield

    that surrounds all of Iran’s inland borders and a huge section of China.

    Wake up people, or you will get your war.

    JustTheFactsPlease • Spokane, United States • 21 minutes ago Report Abuse
    Not a fan-
    You’ll find that all over these blogs. Kids trying to engage in adult conversation and fabricating things in their little minds. Just consider his rambling as insignificant and immature. Then just laugh it off, it deserves no further attention.

    Looking for truth replied

    Not a fan and Just the Facts. You guys are the shills for Israel, no? The Israeli #$%$ is coming apart, due to the internet. The mainstream media is largely owned by Jews. Also, 911 was an inside job. Google Lucky Larry Silverstein and Building 7. You will be enlightened.

    JustTheFactsPlease
    This person has hidden their profile.

    justthefacts you are BUSTED

    this is from the following yahoo page

    http://news.yahoo.com/report-germany-probes-iran-pondering-attacks-134733293.html

  51. 59 Paul Taylor December 1, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    BUSTED

  52. 60 Paul Taylor December 1, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Bridget I already noted that the Israeli operative was US based. They forgot to turn off their Yahoo marker. sometimes this invasive software can be used to catch you out. I wonder what an American in Spokane finds so interesting about J7? well i don’t wonder . so tell us about your real job Bridget and stop with the absurd Foster carer stuff

  53. 61 Paul Taylor December 1, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    i note also that justhefacts was interested in europe news,not typical for somebody based in Spokane

    this is the same person who is even a member of J7

    you are either on gov payroll or heavily infiltrated

    and my guess is that The Antagonist is also on payroll

    j7 you have NO CREDIBILITY

  54. 62 lwtc247 December 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    “justhefacts was interested in europe news,not typical for somebody based in Spokane” – lol

  55. 63 Paul Taylor December 3, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Bridget are you Jewish ? the only reason i ask is that as you know many people think Israel was behind the London bombings and so if you are Jewish there is a possible risk that you would not be 100% impartial just like the UK ambassador to Israel . I would say the same if for example a Mulsim was tasked with investigating a similar scenario when Jews were framed

  56. 64 Paul Taylor December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    i wonder i anybody can give a name and bio for the antagonist, my guess is that he is a gatekeeper to ensure Bridget never speculates on who is actually responsible for 7th July etc

  57. 65 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 3:39 am

    i stopped taking my medication when i found out it is made by jews – lol

    Ed lwtc247 said: The above comment came with the following info:
    email: funtiger8@yahoo.com
    IP: 146.185.23.179
    URL left: http://www.youtube.com/user/thisisyourwakeup?feature=mhee
    But I suspect such a cowardly attack on Pauls person has a sham ID behind it, such is the scum that crawls out from beneath its rock to attack people rather than debate what they say. When I saw this comment, it stood out as being very much out of character of the real Paul Taylor. Sorry Paul. I’ll leave it here as a record of the how this scum operates.

  58. 66 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 10:50 am

    aul Taylor
    December 12, 2011 at 3:39 am
    i stopped taking my medication when i found out it is made by jews – lol

    Reply

    this was not posted by me but by an internet Zionist troll

  59. 67 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 11:00 am

    reply posted at 3.40 am UK time so that means the impersonator (you are committing criminal offence) is almost certainly US based. I know they have boiler rooms that create false ID and try to frame people. They did it with the 911 patsies and they did it with the 77 patsies

    can anybody suggest action that i can take to get rid of these criminal attacks?

  60. 68 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 11:04 am

    anyway you can all clearly see this Zionist humour at work, probably some filth at J7 such as the weasel Justthefacts. false flags, impersonation etc are all in a days work for these filthy criminals

  61. 69 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 11:08 am

    i assume its femadeathcampcontrol who offered me fake accommodation online this is very much , cruel person who went to a HUGE amount of trouble with all kinds of bogus youtube accounts and emails.

    • 70 lwtc247 December 12, 2011 at 11:54 am

      How would that person know you are posting here? Perhaps you have a stalker Paul. Whatever the situation is, the person/s that are stalking you resemble (or are?) mirror the kind of crap whose hands are all over 9-11 and quite possibly played a role in 7-7.

      Paul if scum are attacking you, you know you must be doing something right.

      • 71 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 12:24 pm

        they have my name and passport details. I also gave (him, her, them,) it a copy of my passport. As i thought wrongly that they were on the level i also gave them this thread to follow. I found out who it was and then i was contacted with a sarcastic joke that simply confirmed it.
        so yes i am being stalked, trolled, traduced, defamed, threatened etc

        a big worry indeed

  62. 72 lwtc247 December 12, 2011 at 11:49 am

    One could speculate a lot about the Antagonist, but going from his website, I’d say he’s on the level, and actually despite me disagreeing with them over a few issues (a stance they have {incorrectly} never failed to blow out of ALL proportion) I’ll still regard them as sincere.

    Perhaps their general adherence to the rather childish mantra of Marxism and clear dislike of religion explains their failure to factor in the Israyhell dimension properly – along with all the trappings that involves.

    • 73 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 11:55 am

      what is his website and why is he anonymous. I disagree with you. J7 is about as believable as wikileaks

      • 74 lwtc247 December 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm

        His site is antagonise.blogspot.com/
        Re: J7T and Wikileaks etc, I think there is a danger in thinking that these people are agents of 100% impartial, pure unadulterated truth, or at least holding them up to that image. People in those groups have their own agenda, prejudice/bias. J7TC will be as flawed and skewed as the rest of us, and they demonstrate that.

        If we hold them to absolute standards they will always fail and after that, it’s quite easy to get suspicious. Still, In some aspects, they rather invite a thread or two of suspicion. I can see why you have those views, but personally I’ll not accuse them of being state agents –

        For now anyway.

  63. 75 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    first of all I wish to thank Tom Secker fr uploading the Horizon propaganda video featuring a lot of israeli terror éxperts’ they know a lot about it I agree

    now I want to share a dialogue i had with Tom that casts doubt on just how keen he is to find out who did 7th July 2005

  64. 77 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    my name is quite common in fact, so obviously I am not the only Paul Taylor but in retrospect i wish I had used an alias. the trouble is that if youndont identify yourself you lack credibility. its a tough call but its too late now

  65. 78 Paul Taylor December 12, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Tom Secker has ‘no idea’who did the July 7th bombing . it could be the Congolese or it could be the 4 men mentioned by the Police . He is not sure, does not know, no hard evidence etc etc

    so basically Tom Secker like the entire J7 website can write thousands of pages of evidence showing who did not do it , but have no idea who actually did do it

    Tom thinks it may have been anyone. Tom can we exclude my grandmother and narrow the field down a bit?

    what is teh point of being a truth campaigner if the end result is that nobody can identify who actually did it

    absurd

    also as yet i have no bio about the so called antagonist. whats his background, is he another Golders Green foster carer I wonder? He has dark hair apparently

  66. 79 felix December 14, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    re the antanogist, I think this is a pretty fine post:
    http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2011/08/wpc-yvonne-fletcher-miscarriage-of.html
    so I tend to row in with lwtc247.

  67. 80 lwtc247 December 15, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    The murder of Yvonne Fletcher has always been of interest to me because it was my introduction to dirty british politics, all this when I was but a lad.

    It was the first instance I thought the british government were lying and also that the TV media were just letting a government lie pass without challenge. [I refer to the coverage on ‘the newz’ which followed the finding of ‘guns’ after the re-search whereas they had previously turned up nothing.

    Hello dirty britain! (Note, I soon came to see the anti-Irish stance as practised by the british establishment and its institutions.)

    So it was with even greater interest when I came across Joe Vialls’ report on the matter (this was when Joe was still alive and building a bit of a ‘fan’ base) Joe claimed Israyhelli involvement. Something, sadly, the antagonist makes not a single mention of (although to completely side-step wasn’t unexpected I guess)

  68. 81 Paul Taylor December 16, 2011 at 5:02 am

    my rebuke to Tom Secker

    i am not going to deny that the Antagonist writes well but why is he anonymous. If a person is anonymous then they may indeed work on behalf of an agency. The Antagonist should wish to wallow in the respect of Felix by being outed but somehow prefers to keep his light hidden under a bushel.

    if anybody is interested they can go to J7 and try and find my postings, they are supposed to be there but you need to log in or create an account. i can also send the owner of this blog a copy of my ‘dialogue ‘with Tom ( it could have been anybody) Secker

  69. 82 Paul Taylor December 16, 2011 at 5:05 am

    that Yvonne Fletcher was not killed by a Libyan diplomat comes as NO surprise. indeed I now assume that all terrorism is false flag until can convince myself otherwise through facts and not through the mass media and government pronouncements

  70. 83 lwtc247 December 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Paul Good video. I’m surprised though as Secker seems quite mild mannered in his on-screen conduct. Maybe he’s been J7TC-ised.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8zGNe7Ebg You know when you’ve been J7TC-ised ‘cos you look the other way when Israyhell is mentioned.

    I’m not sure the Antagonist (or BD) could be described as Jewish. He seems to idolise Marxist dogma, and exudes a belief one is his own god. So not Jewish.

    Pharisaic? Now that’s a different story…

  71. 84 Paul Taylor October 17, 2013 at 3:27 am

    just re visiting this page as a result of a new email. . i see a link to a video that has since been removed. living in China it still rankles me that my free speech was curtailed by Israel which runs YouTube via Google. i had almost 1000 subs and almost 1000 uploads when my channel was removed. all because i revealed the real name of a Zionist troll named Koert Tijdens based in France. he had been tormenting me for 2 years with almost daily Pedophile accusations thinking he was anonymous. when I unmasked him Google REMOVED my channel . costing me 4000 hours of work. and that from a company that criticises Chinese censorship. highly ironic

    if anybody wishes to contact me my skype is thisisyourwakeup and my second youtube channel is called truthseeker9eleven

    it gets few visitors so please have a look. i no longer update it as its pointless to update a channel that can be deleted for no reason and destroy all your work

    • 85 lwtc247 October 19, 2013 at 12:16 pm

      Glad your vlogging again Paul. After your last experience, I’m surprised you’re uploading on YouTube again. Have you thought of uploading to a less openly Zionist medium, as a suggestion Vimeo?? The Guardian (which you mentioned in a different comment) is notorious for deleting comments that are not mainstream.


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