Examining issues of 9-11 and 7-7, along with analysis and opinion on global politics.
See 19:39 timeline
“There’s a pattern here, and I think It’s highly likely that all three of these men: Martin [Abdullah] McDaid, Mohammed Qayum Khan [a.k.a. Mohammed Quayyum Khan, a.k.a. ‘Q’], Mohammed Junaid Babar [4 years in prison] were all working for the security services- either British or American “
Why not the so called “Israeli” intelligence services Tom?
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p.s. the youtube page with Tom’s performance had this horrible coincidence on the side menu.
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I’ve had some free time to catch up on some videos downloaded some time ago, and I’ve just finished watching a program called On the Edge with guest Tom Secker.
http://www. youtube .com/watch?v=ql59RPRL4v0
Tom, creator of the claimed 7/7: Seeds of Deconstruction, was recommended to the program by J7T, i.e. the July 7 truth campaign. J7T are a small group of people – and they can get extremely agitated when shitty Israyhell gets a mention, they have poo-pooed “Zionist” connections not so long after 7/7 despite today J7T claiming We don’t have a clue what happened that day – but if you’ll excuse the liberty: We are pretty sure Zionist Israyhell is not involved . It’s not that surprising that Tom was recommended by them because Tom pushes the same ambiguity that J7T do, but in a reasoned and respectable way devoid of non-sequiturs, diversions and/or false accusations.
Tom is asked about the report of the supposed shootings at Canary Wharf (CW). He avoids discussion on that. Well, actually, he does and he doesn’t avoid discussion of that issue. He ‘discusses’ it in so far as he mentions it in terms of other non-CW events.
In the interview, (28:48 start) Tom is asked about “the question of who was shot at Canary Wharf ” Note: The host “alex:g” should have added “media reports of…”.
Tom says
28:59
“One of the various things that came out in the reporting on the day of 7/7, was this notion that there had been some kind of police operation at CW, and there was even this rumour that suicide bombers had been shot there by police marksman.” Now that may or may not have happened.”
29:19
“I’m dubious [about the reports] to be honest…”
“…there’s a lot of different rumours going around on 7/7…”
“..Again, it’s a possibility [the shootings], but it’s something we have to have more solid evidence to go on than simply a few media reports saying this way or that”.
Was that a discussion of the possible shootings?
It didn’t look like it to me. It appeared that Tom was trying to ascribe the ‘CW shootings’ to rumour. Fine, but there is no way he can say for certain the reports were actually a rumour. And immediately after this, the discussion moves onto the return tickets. Tom himself says there’s a contradiction here mentioning the governments narrative binging up ONE report in The Mirror about the ‘return tickets’. He then goes on to elaborate on the ‘problem’ talking about the tickets as factual. Now as far as I remember, I’ve read people claiming the CW ‘shootings’ were mentioned on TV and they appeared in one or more newspapers. Tom discusses this one lone report as if it is factual giving credence to The Mirror’s return tickets, but unevenly didn’t apply this to the more reported CW shootings.
You know what?
It doesn’t really matter. Tom’s an individual. He is free to make his own judgements on what he thinks is strong evidence and what he thinks is something to be avoided. He exercises this liberty here regarding the CW ‘shootings, and makes the personal call that it’s something he finds not productive to discuss. OK. That’s a reasonable position to adopt. People shouldn’t throw horrible slander and lies against him if he says something others don’t happen to agree with.
34:44
“Obviously I have a suspicion that 7/7 was some kind of black-op. Otherwise I wouldn’t have made that film”
Here we see J7T being uneven. They recommended Tom who openly admits he has suspicions (see also 2:31 later) , but J7T fiercely attack and repeatedly libel other who have suspicions, one summised because they are suspicions+Israyhell.
Tom goes on to warn (in an advisory capacity) that independently formulated alternative narratives ‘need to know what covert-op looks like’. This is curious. Who has proposed an alternative conspiratorial narrative and doesn’t know the history of black-ops? It seems likely to me that anyone concluding 7/7 is a black-op/false-flag, then they would almost certainly have read up on other things like the Reichstag fire, Gulf of Tonkin incident, Nero’s Rome etc. I have extreme doubts someone would compose a narrative of 7/7 with only knowledge of 7/7. Perhaps Tom was alluding to something else, because what he said here isn’t particularly logical.
Tom mentions ‘people have pushed the connection between 9/11 and 7/7 for various reasons’ (???)… ” I wonder what reasons Tom knows of ?, anyway…
36:02
“…Particularly with the 7/7 story, what’s so obvious to me, is the number of red herrings there are {I’ve seen that line almost verbatim elsewhere}..Number of things that just been taken down a particular path and it’s then turned out to be untrue.
Well Tom, I seriously doubt you know of any ‘red-herrings in progress’ but it would be nice of you would share them. A other ‘truthers’ have asserted this red herring thing but of course don’t know of any red herrings in progress or have zero proof (other than a reasonable sense of suspicion). But it makes them look smart by pretending they do KNOW these red herrings. What’s more, by asserting red-herrings are part of the 7/7 narrative, Tom is really strengthening his own suspicions that 7/7 was a black-op’ as red-herrings are deliberate acts. And that’s ok. As a thinking human being, he has the perfect right to have those feelings. It would be wise to wonder who, why and how all ‘those’ red herrings are put in place.
Tom continues:
“and the CCTV is a great example of that. You mentioned the conspiracy files and what you there is they got Nick Kollerstrom (NK) who is one of the people who thinks 7/7 was an inside job, was a covert op, and he’d spent three years basically going around saying there is no CCTV from London…”
Excuse me Tom. While I’m not that up to speed with what exactly NK did in those three years, I suspect it was a lot more than ‘just going around saying’ words which perhaps conjure up some homeless man making wild suggestions. Perhaps this would be a bit more accurate(?): “He’d spent three years personally researching, interviewing, gathering evidence and wirting on the subject in the belief there was no CCTV from London – which given none was released for years, wasn’t such an unreasonable thing to do.” – or “going around saying there is no CCTV from London” If you want to stick to Toms description.
“…those four guys weren’t even in london that day, and claiming that one frame we’d seen from Lution was a fake. So what did they do? They roll out CCTV from Luton showing a nice long stretch of action so, kind of proving that it’s authentic, I mean I suppose the whole thing could be faked, but taking it at face value, and then they show him CCTV of these four guys walking through Kings Cross and he’s flabbergasted, ‘cos he’s been rolled down a cerain path only for them to cut him off.”
Kind of proving it’s authentic? huh? Is it authentic or not? Tom himself later allows for the possiblity that it wasn’t authentic. So Tom, you should really have said perhaps “suggesting the the audience that it was authentic”. Tom again is taking something at face value, which is what NK did before the footage was released – i.e. at face value there wasn’t going to be any footage. And Tom does say various people had requested that exact footage. Tom is impaling himself on his own sword somewhat. To the best of my recollection, the Luton video DOES NOT show the alleged ‘4 bombers’. If you can make them out to me and prove the tape is genuine, then ok, your words make sense.
As for the single frame, MANY people inc some in J7 made statements suggesting the single still frame outside Luton train station was fake, what with bars going through bodies and strange leg dirextions and no distinguishable faces, or if you prefer Toms description again “[NK] claimed the photos were fake” – which by the way there isn’t any proof that they are not fakes!
Maybe Nick did make a boob on the CCTV in London thing. Like any serious investigation, the leading model can then under improvement to fit the known evidence. But of course to those ‘loving liberal’ truthers who hate NK and wouldn’t hesitate to fling muck at him [Nick suspects Israyhelli connections] would use that to dismiss everything NK has ever done or said re 7/7.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it Tom. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that what you find ‘strange’ will eventually be given a palusible explaination. Don’t worry, I’m sure J7T won’t hate you, after all, you don’t mention the “I” word. So readers will have to excuse me for thinking that it wasn’t unreasonable to think there was going to be no CCTV footage. I’d hazard a guess that this crossed almost everyone’s mind at some stage. (c.f. 9/11, pentagon, hotel camera)
The ambiguous approach does have it’s merits, but as I’ve pointed out a couple of times before, it itself is limiting. An alternative narrative based on the facts is inherently closer to the real truth than some amorphous ‘blurr all’ ambiguity. Of course, alternative narratives (subject to human prejudice and biases) can fall foul of information in the hands of people(government) who themselves have an interest in trying to de-rail truth seekers, should the govt be involved with the deliberate killing of civilians. That said, it is mightily peculiar that those in possession of such material (which independent researchers can only scratch and scrape for) can only deliver a narrative that is less plausible than those independent researchers.
It tirns out that Nick probably made a mistake going on a BBC program intent to scorn independent narratives (while glossing over the govt’s Swiss cheese narrative) and J7 didn’t do this to their credit (one wonders why the BBC didn’t take the liberty of picking up on J7’s alternative narratives anyhow). My guess is Nick though he could publicise the problems with the govt’s narrative and show people there was an alternate explanation. But still, we all make mistakes.
Note: If someone proposing a ‘shitty Israyhell’ connection of 7/7 had a name like “alex:g” I can imagine the stinking ridicule that would flow their way from some quarters. Such an “Israyhell’s involved” researcher would also have suspicions flung at him for appearing on the mainstream media.
This interview shows clearly the rank hypocrisy amongst some who call for the truth, oops, I mean the truth(which doesn’t involve Israyhell).
2:31
“When 7/7 happened I instantly felt that this was something that didn’t really didn’t add up, that what what we were being told probably wasn’t true.”
Well done Tom for being honest and humanly flawed like the rest of us and acting on feelings. It matters not what points I make here. Your effort to advance the truth emerging from that day is applauded.
Tom based his documentary on what he said was:
“the reported facts, at least what it is we’ve been told what reports say the media has said”
{Don’t forget the CW shootings folks}
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Finally, that Jaguar, surely that’s a deliberate plant. Surely! I can’t believe the police(?) pouring over that CCTV and scruitinising it for month upon month, would not have ‘seen’ the issue of the Jag.
And what do you know, A car which appreas to be a Jag AMAZINGLY appears what also amazingly looks like a blue micra parked in Luton train station, in a helpful “visual aid” for readers see: J7T picture contained in the post A Nissan Micra Tardis?
Here’s some more of Tom’s words:
“When 7/7 happened I instantly [my emphasis] felt that this was something that didn’t really didn’t add up, that what what we were being told probably wwasn’t true.”
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Darling Dave lets his hate rip.
“Multiculturalism has failed” because the British prime minister, past cocaine snorter, David Cameron hath spoken.
Herr Merkel of Germany said something similar a few months ago too, which sparked a slightly more logicalflaw-spotting-type-reply from me than this more angry one.
Have C&M undertaken painstaking sociological research over the years, interviewing hundreds of different people from a diverse set of cultural and religious backgrounds, studying and pondering over the sea of factors involved in mixed societies, experiencing life amongst highly diverse people’s proud of their culture, customs and faith? Have they met with sociologists the world over and read reports detailing (or even summarising) an accurate global consensus?
No.
Of course not.
They’re just talking utter bollocks – the rule rather than the exception.
One may argue, reasonably, that one doesn’t have to be a recognised expert in a field to know something about it, or hold accurate knowledge about it, so can we give this grace to cokey Cameron and herr Merkel?
Once more, No..
Why? Because these Pepe le Pew’s don’t define what being ‘British’ or ‘German’ means, although one suspects it could well allude to something like the following:
<i><b>Tip:</b> don’t be a tit and send in a list of the failings of others, thanks.</i>
So why is the rolled-up-bullseye-one so ambiguous about it? Because it’s not multiculturalism that he’s attacking, it’s Islam. The little plop doesn’t even try and think of a new disguise for his attack, or have the balls to be honest about his xenophobia.
I am a British citizen and I’m pretty certain I don’t conform to what jumped up little jerk like Cameron tries to pimp what being British is, which remember, he doesn’t define it, so I can only guess, but whatever the little pratt’s idea is about what being British must entail, it has absolutely no right to have any power over me.
I’ve come to the conclusion that nationalism is a farce – nay, worse than that, it’s a ploy along the lines of divide and rule. Stuff your phoney idea of nations and marketing spin as to what any national identity must involve. Stick the union jack where the sun don’t shine Dave. Now that’s real liberalism Dave, not your phoney dictate-as-liberalism.
Not only am I a (an ashamedly) British citizen, but I’m a Muslim too. I reject the UK’s perverse laws that consistently fail to be upheld against the biggest criminals in the society. I spy with my little eye false-flags that killed probably 56 people in London on 7-7. I know well your Imperialist history and neo-imperial contemporary history. I know your lies about Iraq, Iran, the Palestinians and Israyhell ad nauseaum. Your ‘hero’ Churchill used chemical weapons on Arab villiagers and firebombed cities of families in Germany.
I want Shariah law. As a British citizen I, and every other British citizen who wants it, have a perfect right to want it and have it. Under it, hopefully you and the thoroughly rotten establishment you preside over will get your just rewards for your monumental crimes. All the other Muslims, white, brown, black or whatever living in Britain have the right to demand that too, and pursue it, and when we become a majority voice in the country you and your EDL/BBD fan clubs should shut-up about it. Liberal Democracy you see Dave ;) But of course what you mean by liberal democracy isn’t liberal democracy, which like being British, you avoid defining.
Until that day, the Muslims of the UK will follow the way of life God prescribed for them but will likely respect the way the UK is administered, however they by no means should stand quiet in the face of evil as witnessed by your foreign crusades.
There is not the slightest bit scared about Britain’s past that must be preserved. It’s past sucks and it’s bulk is akin to an encyclopaedia of war. Britain’s with a Muslim mindset at it’s helm offers real and better direction. {Tip: Avoid a second chance for titdom status by pointing the shambles of Islamic (so called) ‘leadership’ overseas as representative of what I’m saying here}
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Here’s a rip from the Brit govt’s propaganda bureau.
The prime minister will criticise “state multiculturalism” in his first speech on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism since being elected.
Addressing a security conference in Germany, David Cameron will argue the UK needs a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to extremism.
Different cultures are encouraged to live apart, and objectionable views met with “passive tolerance”, he will say.
He will also signal a tougher stance on groups promoting Islamist extremism.
You see? it’s bloody obvious that Druggy Dave’s attack is about Islam, not multiculturalism. After just a few measly sentence length paragraphs, ISLAM becomes the focus. No mention of Orthodox Jews who retain their Kosher foods, clothing, ways, and close community [not that there should be]. No mention about Hindu’s whose caste system is still practices even among Christian Indians because Dave and Merkels issue is with Islam, period!
Mr Cameron is to suggest there will be greater scrutiny of some Muslim groups that get public money but do little to tackle extremism.
Reality is of course much different from what this little fart is going to drool out. You’d be hard pressed to positively identify much Muslims-within-britain-extremism at all – p.s. government crystal ball show trials on what people thought or might have done in the future don’t count. ! Neither will I cout the extremism that lurks on the halls of Westminster palace and the darkened glass buildings of the City. No group has any obligation to tackle what the GOVERNMENT defines as extremism (does anyone really believe the governmnet will be unbiased in this??), which I believe is classified as anything resembling resistance to the UK government penchant for killing, something permeating the armed forces and the dirty cops marauding in the streets of Britain.
Ministers should refuse to share platforms or engage with such groups, which should be denied access to public funds and barred from spreading their message in universities and prisons, he will argue.
Cameron is going to encourage some establishment whore to declare at their own (guided) discretion, whose ‘message’ can be heard and whose can’t. It’s pretty clear to see that if any group speaks the hard truth but it isn’t to the Governments or Israyhells favour, then one expects an attempt to shut it up.
“Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism,” the prime minister will say.
What??
“Let’s properly judge these organisations: Do they believe in universal human rights – including for women and people of other faiths? Do they believe in equality of all before the law? Do they believe in democracy and the right of people to elect their own government? Do they encourage integration or separatism?
These organisations read: Islamic organisations and ABSOLUTELY NOT JEWISH ORGANISATIONS THAT OPENLY FUND AND SUPPORT ISRAYHELLI TERRORISM
“These are the sorts of questions we need to ask. Fail these tests and the presumption should be not to engage with organisations,” he will add.
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We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values”
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But Muslim youth group The Ramadhan Foundation said that, by singling out Muslims, Mr Cameron had fed “hysteria and paranoia”.
Well, Cameron and all the British establishment have been working on that for years. Muslim groups to try and get into the game to change the game are deluded. Well intentioned perhaps, but deluded.
Chief executive Mohammed Shafiq said: “British Muslims abhor terrorism and extremism and we have worked hard to eradicate this evil from our country.
Yes the do, and as it’s the British government that are the oxygen, heat AND fuel for terrorism most muslims of sound mind abhor the British governments actions and those of Israyhell. That’s why Cameron is stirring the crap here.
“But to suggest that we do not sign up to the values of tolerance, respect and freedom is deeply offensive and incorrect.
Indeed and in fact it’s Cameron that’s frothing out lack of tolerance. QED!
“Multiculturalism is about understanding each others faiths and cultures whilst being proud of our British citizenship.”
Personally I feel there is almost nothing to proud of in the slightest, but as I said to a respected friend the other day, the UK actually allows some aspects of Islam that Islamic countries will not – and that is (soon to become WAS) freedom of speech. That I guess is something one can be proud of in Blighty.
BBC political correspondent Ben Wright said the prime minister would be delivering a stark message to his audience in Munich – that European countries must “wake up to what’s happening within their borders”.
The British establishment has already attempted to form a non-uniformed brown shirt brigade reporting anything “suspicious” e.g. A Muslim talking on the phone or overhearing a word of Arabic or having olive skin.
Mr Cameron will draw a clear distinction between Islam the religion and what he describes as “Islamist extremism” – a political ideology he says attracts people who feel “rootless” within their own countries.
Will he bollocks! It won’t happen as Islam is his target. What he will do, is try and paint it so that it doesn’t look like it’s Islam that he’s after.
“We need to be clear: Islamist extremism and Islam are not the same thing.”
What about British extremism, the extremism you preside over you dog!
The government is currently reviewing its policy to prevent violent extremism, known as Prevent, which is a key part of its wider counter-terrorism strategy.
Do you mean we will try harder to set up gullible people and keep the same disgusting foreign policy? Yes. I suspect you do.
‘I am a Londoner too’
What’s that a reference to Cameron? The false flag of 7/7 perhaps? The greatest act of terrorism in recent history? A gross act of treason against the British people? You scum! But say for a moment you are right and that 7/7 was an act of terrorism by 4 Muslims. How should we weigh it against the 1.3 million killed in Iraq and the families you keep killing in Afghanistan today? Anyway, typical southerner, the world revolves around London.
A genuinely liberal country “believes in certain values and actively promotes them,” Mr Cameron will say.
Crap. Anyone can say your hollow words.
“Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law. Equal rights, regardless of race, sex or sexuality.
Oh come on now Dave. You really have no shame. Who taught you that chutzpa? Tzipi Livni over the phone after you told her you would act to stop the law from prosecuting her terrorism that killed over 400 children terrorists
“It says to its citizens: This is what defines us as a society. To belong here is to believe these things.
Definition that you dare not try define. You fraud.
“Each of us in our own countries must be unambiguous and hard-nosed about this defence of our liberty.”
I’m going to be sick. And I know there will be thousands if not millions of people who will lap up your words. Maybe the EDL will have an honourary doctorate for you.
He will say that under the “doctrine of state multiculturalism”, different cultures have been encouraged to live separate lives.
People of the same culture, mother tongue and religion want to stick together. Get used to it. It’s their right and some, perhaps even a lot take up that right. They are still human beings. Not your slaves.
“We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values.”
I think I’ve hit upon just a few reasons earlier as to why that might be.
Building a stronger sense of national and local identity holds “the key to achieving true cohesion” by allowing people to say “I am a Muslim, I am a Hindu, I am a Christian, but I am a Londoner… too”, he will say.
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Listen up you worm, you ain’t no Muslim, but you are a terrorist Dave and a supporter of terrorism. That’s right Davey boy, you, not me. but of course, you know that, but don’t give a toss do ya Dave.
Dave fails to mention anything about Brits abroad who stick in their own fish and chip serving ghettos and fail to learn the local language and merge into the ways of the locals.
I reject your spiteful xenophobia. Dave you obnoxious creep, crawl back beneath your rock!
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This blog came about primarily as a result of needing {in a ‘not in my name‘ type way} to voice-out rejection of – what I see as being – an ocean of officially created, sanctioned and encouraged lies regarding the terrorist attacks of 9-11 and 7-7 as well as to facilitate discussion of those two events. ‘Success’ at doing this isn’t important at all; simply, to remain quiet, would be a crime.
That said, then to all intents and purposes, it’s almost compulsory that I notify passing readers about websites that are doing standard-bearing, sterling-efforts in pursuit of 7th July 2005 truth.
The links are ripped from Stef, but that’s to his credit. One link I will add to Stef’s, is to that of Nick Kollerstrom, who along with a few others, may offer alternative narratives (partial or full). It must be said this ‘alternative anrrative’ approach is strongly disliked by some, but it’s there. I feel this is important to add NK’s site, because although good ‘J7 truths’ method is, I believe in the latter stages of more mature official narratives, that it will have to change. I’m not interested in debating the philosophical aspects of that belief, other than to sat that it seems likely to me that should the govt plug the gaping holes in their ripping yarn of 7/7 then that in no way means any competing narratives is null and void. Other narratives may still be possible. Fingers will be put in the dam until it is just passible/palusible to the majority of the public, thereby allowing more minor, outstanding questions, to pass. Such is the power of states – they monopolise.
And if there is a deadly dark secret to 7/7 (and 9-11) e.g. false flag / inside job, then this barely passible/get-by hogging the limelight is to be fully expected and we must all be aware of it. There is simply no way the full deadly plots, will be allowed to gain the majority of publicity or acceptance. No way!
And there could well be a point when the govt says case closed, simply ignoring any remaining (few) voices on matters of concern relating to 7-7.
This simple post is evolving into an essay!
Anyone interested in the 7-7 (and we should ALL be!) then please check out those links periodically.
By the way, the title of this post is a result of the totally dreadful way the inquest has been going over the last two weeks. I am not however surprised. And the lego thing is symbolic of the respect that officialdom has shown for the truth
Because it’s the truth that matters, not whether we agree or otherwise.
Cheers.
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Well no, it doesn’t, like nothing about 7/7 does, but don’t let that stop you from allowing the BBC’s NLP telling you it does.
a) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11546549
[A lesson in NLP tricks!]
Ben Geoghagen:
“This is really chilling footage, I would describe it John”
– BBC Journo once again expressing a personal opinion, but as a BBC journo (the BBC still, incredibly, can successfully draw upon it’s image of the informed and informative ‘trusted’ institution of Britishness), he has an open passageway into your brain, even though you’ve never het him before and know absolutely nothing about him (esp. his political leanings – or how passionate he holds those views and what what extent therefore that he will promote them)
“What you’re about to see…”
NLP ‘preparation’
“I’ll show you the first one. The first one. It’s of H.H. HE exists KX underground station and you see him going into Boots…” [footage1] time = 08:59:46 “it’s part of the property there part of the concourse”
NLP ‘expansion’
[footage2]
“There you can see hi actually entering the shop”
time = 9:05:54-7 (WH Smith sign seen in footage)
“What is striking about all this footage…”
[footage3 – grey] time = 09:53:13-5
“And here is him coming out of KX station onto the main concourse…”
“…what is so striking about it, is the number of people he passes as he wonders outside Kings Cross station.”
At this point the journo talks about the problems/delays/congestion on the tube that day. [back to footage3 – grey] time = 9:53:13- Note almost impossible to identify any person. And he says
“..a lot of people are on their MOBILE PHONES making calls to friends or their bosses saying they are going to be late.”
Really??? Mobile phones at 09:52:29? This is something that should be checked. Note: it’s almost assured the BBC journo didn’t check.
“and here’s H.H. walking with this rucksack amongst them and obviously they are totally oblivious to the danger they face because here’s a man whose carry a bomb on his back and a bomb which he later detonates on the No 30 Bus at Tavistock square and kills 13 people as he does so” – This is lazy pre-concluded supposition. There is no proof he did it. There has been no trial.
[Inside BMA building? footage. Time 09:42-04. Supposed explosion on the bus at 9:42:18]
yet Bus aerial debris footage: VLW 173 time = 09:34:23 BST
Of course the “BMA? footage time and the ‘aerial blast debris time” footage is inconsistent. They differ by 7min 41seconds and TAKE A LOOK AT THE BIG TREE: The branches on the left hardly move at all. If this wasn’t ‘explained’ to you, you would have virtually no idea it was describing an explosion. There is NO obvious blast movement up or to the right on the trees left hand side. If this ‘blast debris’ was faked I’d not be surprised, esp. as there only seems to be one shot with ‘hazy blobs’ in it.
Journo goes on about
[how much footage was gone through] in order to get good evidence of the movements of this one bomber H.H.”
Who said it was ‘good’ – the journo. He’s giving you his opinion and his opinion is that it’s good. My opinion (and I’m going to cover it up that it is my opinion) is that it’s bullshit footage and it doesn’t prove anything.
“…there were cameras on some of the busses showing you footage on SOME of the busses, showing you the No 30 thirty bus that he eventually got on”
NLP again. And very clever. He ‘covers’ footage from busses, but not a peep from him about a total lack of footage is available from any specific bus he’s supposed to have gotten onto.
“to piece together his movements on that day…”
Yet more NLP commands telling you what to think. And it’s not pieced together. The timelines once again are inconsistent.
“before he detonated his device”
This is NLP ‘reinforcement’
“on that bus” – my emphasis
more ‘reinforcement’ having been told earlier about the No. 30 bus.
Not once does he expose you to anything other than it’s a ‘fact’ the these guys did it. He never said the word likely, supposed, possible or even the commonly used mild get out clause of ‘alleged”
What a terrible so-called journalist this Ben Geoghagen is. Well, that’s probably why he’s working at the BBC.
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100906/tuk-blair-may-shelve-signing-after-demo-6323e80.html
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100904/tuk-protester-attempts-citizen-s-arrest-dba1618.html
When Blair dies, I’m, going to try to dance of his grave. I will celebrate the day of his death and many more millions will breathe a sigh of relief that this hideous liar will no longer be able to kill.
I do hope that he’s not buried in the grounds of the Knesset ‘cos then, my little planned dance (and a little corpse mutilation ;) ) might be a wee bit difficult.
In the mean time, while ‘ol forked-tongue killer is alive, I’ll give you a promise – ready to click ‘save’ spooks?…: If I have the opportunity to punch the living daylights out of him, I WILL.
There!
Anyway the murdering old toad just wont shut the hell up, neither will he just vanish from sight. Not only has lie meister general bLiar been trying to drum up support for war against the Iranian people, he been going on about the threat of radical Islam, to which someone pointed out something like: ‘its strange how threat of death and destruction (via supposed Islamic radicalization) far outweighs Bliar’s actual death and destruction.’
The guy’s a pathological liar, and he just couldn’t refrain himself could he, saying he ‘cried for Iraq’s victims’. BOLLOCKS. I will NEVER believe that.
Look in the eyes of a killer:
I see a mask. A mask that is continually suffocating his conscience, knowing that if he ever relinquish its grip, the resulting torrent of emotions and endless monumental guilt would never allow this man to do anything other than kill himself.
Killer Bliar is due to appear (God, it’s as of he a movie star and no doubt his mask advises he think of himself in that way) at Waterstones Piccadilly, London, next Wednesday, 8th September. He said of the Metropolitan Police (who are going to ‘look after his security) that they were
“fabulous and they will do whatever we ask them to do” but they shouldn’t be asked to commit resources unnecessarily.
How dare this man be able to use the command a police force in this way (a police force headed by man years by another total scumbucket Ian Blair who oversaw the 7-7 terrorist bombings in London 7th July 2005). And it it TOTALLY unnecessary for them to protect a known international tyrant and leader of mass infanticide.
The fleck of excrement, Bliar in case you just started reading the post at this paragraph, also said
“The book is selling fantastically. There are people – particularly now the BNP apparently say they want to get in on the action – you end up just causing a lot of hassle for people and cost when there are better things for the police to do and it’s not as if we need to do it.”
Typical bLiar. He simply cannot comprehend that people can oppose the real live ‘snuff video’ alternatively known as his prime ministership. He equates decent human beings not guilty of murder to the BNP. Absolutely astounding.
What a detestable piece of crap this blair thing is.
Oh how I look forward to dancing on his grave.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69M_GhOb8Ug
Much stupidity on display here, e.g. 19:38 – 21:31 and especially 20:22 – 21:31 by mental trollop Houriya Ahmad.
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It was pretty obvious this point would come, where, due to the high number of illogical aspects relating to the 7th July 2010 London bombings, the truth of what happened that day, would never actually get into the public domain.
52 + 4 people are said to have been killed, yet to the power structures in the UK which are supposed to act on behalf of the people, this incident (and 21 & 22 July 2005) played out to be a mere trivality, demonstrable by the point made above.
And so here it is; 7/7 happened and remains unresolved.
Even if it became a publicised psyop, like the well known historical false flags, many people would still be unaware of it, and most of them will still believe the original lie about it, but to most other people, it simply won’t matter.
7/7 joins the lost of other horrific events that COULD have mattered, but really, never mattered.
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From the anals of the BBC…
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Page last updated at 18:08 GMT, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:08 UK
New hope for HIV vaccine efforts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8663239.stm
By Helen Briggs
Health reporter, BBC News
The HIV virus fusing with a T cell
US researchers say they are a step closer to understanding why some people have natural protection against HIV.
COMMENT: And I just wonder what that information will prove useful for…
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Page last updated at 23:04 GMT, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 0:04 UK
Cloud computing for business goes mainstream
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10097450.stm
By Tim Weber
Business editor, BBC News website
COMMENT:
Real headline = BBC pimps Google Hegemony
Sub heading: They were too big to fail and you’re too small to succeed – c/o Auntie. I wonder if Tim Weber holds any shares in Google? Do any there any measures to stop BBC propagandists from ‘selling’ something for their own betterment? I very much doubt it.
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Page last updated at 19:21 GMT, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:21 UK
London 7/7 bombings inquest may probe MI5 role
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8655354.stm
Fifty-two people were killed by the bombers
A judge is to decide whether an inquest into the 7 July London suicide bombings should ask if MI5 could have prevented the terror attacks.
COMMENT: The Failsafe card: MI5 failed to prevent it.
10.0, 10.0, 10.0, 10.0, 10.0, 10.0
Magic!
Oh, and don’t worry, When you vote, feel proud at how your vote will result in a public and totally Independent inqury, free from political leverage. Have a lovely election why don’t you.
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Page last updated at 09:00 GMT, Thursday, 6 May 2010 10:00 UK
Syphilis cases rise sharply in China
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8664168.stm
Increased wealth has fuelled China’s sex industry
China has seen a dramatic rise in cases of syphilis, as a result of rapid social change, US researchers say.
COMMENT: Its those bloody Chinese again. While Suyhpillis may be on the rise, Becasue there’s a smear here, the BBC’s gonna cover it. It’s not a case of the reverse of “no news is good news” it’s a matter of China News must = Bad News. Literacy rates increasing, food sustainability increasing, more rural villiages have reliable electricity supply now. Health standards and Ambulance coverage increasing. Who cares about that. If it’s good news, it ain’t Chinese news.
And no I’m not afflicted with political bipolarism, like our Russian friends who ascribe every Russian crime as a CIA plot to destroy the world, and that F-16’s are scrap metal but MiG’s are excellent and any of that crap. I’m quite aware of the wider game TQ.
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Page last updated at 14:35 GMT, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:35 UK
Mumbai attack gunman Qasab sentenced to death
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8664179.stm
Crowds across Mumbai were jubilant on hearing of the sentence
The only gunman captured alive after the 2008 Mumbai attacks has been sentenced to death by an Indian court.
COMMENT: Now, picture Iran, someone sentenced to death for having been found guilty of abducting boys, sodomizing them and after, killing them. Imagine the quotes from the torrent of anti-capital punishemt talking-heads, dusted off and wheeled out once more to say how ‘the BIG bad’ Iran is.
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And finally, what really gave the title to this post was a comment by the BBC propagandist Prachi Pinglay in the last article I linked to above.
In PURE BBC HALLMARK FASHION, Propagandist Prachi Pinglay reports without a SINGLE qurery about the official statement, she reports Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, the supposed ‘lone survivor’ of the Mumbai massacre, quote:
“He [Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab] was studiously deadpan when the verdict was handed down on Monday. But today Qasab was emotional. A police constable later said: “He asked for water. He was upset and crying.”
Do yourself a favour. torrent : this classic movie.
ANGELS_WITH_DIRTY_FACES_1938_JAMES_CAGNEY_CLASSIC
Nice try, nice try. Maybe next time huh?
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