Posts Tagged 'H1N1'

Once upon a Swine Flu

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html

Quote:

In focus: WHO responds to current critical scrutiny
In a letter to BMJ editors dated 8 June 2010, the Director-General strongly refuted allegations of conflicts of interest leveled at WHO in a recent editorial and feature published in the medical journal. “At no time, not for one second, did commercial interests enter my decision-making”, said the Director-General.

WHO Director-General’s letter to BMJ editors
8 June 2010

The international response to the influenza pandemic: WHO responds to the critics
10 June 2010

Someone getting jumpy? Expect suicides… Not quite sure from which side though. Hope those at the BMJ are vaccinated against SADS.

Swine Flu

Spanish Flu

H1N1

AH1N1

Novel H1N1

2009 H1N1

seems like the supposed virus itself isn’t the only thing liable to mutation.

 

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News and yet more Newz

One of these comes from a UK government funded corporation, the other from an indpendently funded news base. Guess which is which.

This gives me a sliver of opportunity to slip in some nostalgia…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW8HqoDV_lM

The one at the bottom (the news item that is, not the kid in the video) came from the independently (non government) funded  news base globalresearch.ca the one at the top came from the government funded BBC.

Did you guess correctly?

Good. Now we’ll begin…

errr are you sitting confortably?

Here’s the URL’s if yor interested.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16667
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/default.stm 

Yeah I know, I could have made it tougher. I didn’t play fair – a bit like the BBC really. Well you can probably guess at what’s coming next.

The BBC… hummm where to start? Perhaps this: The BBC is a training camp for journalistic genocide. Its propaganda is flagrant and crass but that’s all it needs to be. A form of Occams razor that billows upon the masses. A presstitite  – the self employeed variety, one that actually looks sexy but inside is a utter mess.

If you are new here, yo might wondering what’s rubbing me up the wrong way? Well look at the BBC headline. Put the routing that dominates your life to the side for just a moment and look at it closely. Think about it.

Can UK US stop extremsim in Yemen?

Oh boy!

It’s implying that Yemen [yes YEMEN – the country, the coutry of 203,850 sq miles (527,970 sq km)]  has extremism in it,  the WHOLE country! If this implication isn’t delibate*, then the journalism presented is the culinary equivalent akin to a hard boiled egg. So now you think Yeme n is an exremist country what other propaganda alpha-waves enter your primed skull?

UK US. Hey, wait a minute. What the HELL does this have to do withthe UK? 
N-O-T-H-I-N-G—A-T—A-L-L    that’s what.

Are you not offended yet at what the BBC is doing to you? Are you not outraged that this disgusting filth? You should be. It’s WORSE than the Nazis! Worse? Yeah because the Nazi’s were nearly 70 years ago! WE should have learned. Actually YOU should have learned!!!! (OK they perverted your schooling – you have an atoms wothh of an excuse)

Why put the UK first? Well the rather descriptice USUK would be frowned upon, a little bit like the planet Uranus properly pronounced “Your Anus” (which is kind of funny really) is now pronunced Your-ran-us a bit like your highess (altho I think your heighness should also be pronounced “Your Anus” – if you said it quickly enough and semi-mumbled it, you might just get away with it :)

But is it really an attempt to avoid saying “YOU SUCK” No. As aluded to before it’s an attempt to rope the UK in to the next phase of the War OF  Terror – one that I think has taken most of us by surprise. It superglue’s us to the United Snakes, or AmeriKKKa as it’s somethimes known. I think I might start thinking of it as Israyhells back yard, or playgroind…. or toilet! An Iraqi friend of mine told me today he thought the US in it’s collapse will break out into a civil war. I think he’s right. The battle lines will be divided roughly between the good decnt salt of the earth people who at some stage say through the rotten corporate mainstream media  and those on the other side that eats and drinks from the Zionist banquet. Unfortantely I think the Zionist side will win and the decent people massacred (ZioMurFeDo – the martial art: The way of the Zionist Murder Fest). Those that survive will be left separating sourting out scrap metal in the FEMA camps. You know the way the Americans (and Ozzies to a degree) are damn lazy and just steal names of places like NEW York, New Orleans, New Hampshire and so on? Well I wonder if there’s a FEMA camp in New Belsen, New Treblinka to New Auschwitz. If not then in some odd way, perhaps there should be. They could twin with any three towns in the Gaza strip. They might have to forgo mutual sighseeing though – and food and water and medicine.

Getting back to “UK US” Not only that, but the question has buried in it some kind of “right” like a moral right or a human right or even a legal right to ‘sort out’ Yemen.

Man, this British BBC junk just gets worse and worse. Bury the BBC before it buried you.

Next the Swin(dl)e Flu… bt actually no comment is needed really. The headline summaries the con pretty well. Yes people died and so its orignins MUST be investigated in the public area and by independent investigators. But of course, this ain’t gonn happen. Wonder what the next lab modified virus wull be and when they will release it, supported by a whoreporate mainstream media announcing early on ‘200 dead’ and then blame others for scaremongering other than themselves. Oh, we’re back to the BBC and its newz again. And maybe next time, they’ll discuss its bird/pig.human make-up having allowed a few days to ‘discover’ its genetic charasteristcs from the time they sent it for analysis – unlike last time. hey guess what… were back at the BBC again!

Notice anything worth being concerned about?

I’ll leave you now with a snippted from the ever worthy Aletho News…

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/uk-to-follow-us-intervention-in-yemen/

Phlu(ey) of the Swine Kind

Re: so called novel (A)H1N1 (or pandemic H1N1 as the WHO now calls it).

The WHO says: “many countries have stopped counting individual cases”[1]

This is just one indication that the swine flu is an enormous scam.

Even an idiot would realise if you have a dangerous potentially killer virus, you would do all you can to monitor it (especially in the developing phases) to as high a level of precision and accuracy as possible. Doing so gives invaluable data on its virulence, infectivity, pattern of behaviour to help develop a model so that other similar viruses in the future may be better understood. Last but certainly not least, you would do this to monitor how effective any applied treatment is!

What a sub-idiot would do, is not record actual levels of novel (A)H1N1.

“Health officials say up to 30% of the population may become infected with swine flu, based on analysis of how this pandemic is spreading,”[1b]. See? attempts to keep statistics on it have been compiled for analysis.

There isn’t even an economic basis for not monitoring the declared pandemic, despite reports of the test for an expensive. (i.e. the nucleic acid sequencing procedure for (A)H1N1 – about which I have not been able to uncover any information). The reason why cost isn’t valid is that it’s a duty of Government to pull out all the stops to keep tabs on the virus and ensure the population is protected. How badly they do that isn’t really the issue.

The fact remains that a government could leglislate private companies to monitor it and fund activities to tackle it. They could also swing the resources of state health services to monitoring and action groups.

What are they doing instead? Buying large quantites of shockingly poorly tested vaccines from companies like Baxter with an apalling record of operations standards, fast tracking the vaccine, allowing/encouraging/doing all sorts of junk press releases, and granting those companies immunity from prosecution. All that is definately NOT acting in the interests of the people. It is in the interests of Big Pharma.

But the WHO still publishes (13 Nov 09) a global statistic of at least 6260 deaths from over 503536 cases. Which gives a death rate of 1.24% i.e. 1 death per 80 cases of infection.

That’s pretty low.

Data issues:

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Swine flu: how the numbers add up (Friday, 31 <b>July</b> 2009 18:06)…

The number of new cases for this week in England was estimated at 110,000, a rise of 10,000 over the previous week. That means in two weeks 210,000 people had swine Flu. 1 in 300 people. [1f]
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Page last updated at 16:31 GMT, Thursday, 12 November 2009:   The number of new swine flu cases in the past week fell by nearly a quarter to 64,000 in England, figures show… About 21,500 people are estimated to have caught the virus in Scotland up from 17,500 the week before… 182 deaths [1c]

In those two weeks this gives another 149,000 prople with swine flu (estimated) giving a total of 359,333 people in just four weeks. That means 1 out of 166 people in the UK already had swine flu in just 4 weeks alone and they are non-continuous weeks too!!

OK. Now factor in the 182 deaths and assume they died beause of swine flu. What fatality rate is that based solely upon for weeks?

that’s one death per 1974, That’s 0.05%
Boing further, the BBC said “it’s reckoned that 620,000 people in England have now had swine flu… 182 deaths[2]
that gives a death rate of 1 in 3406. Thats 0.03%
Yet the WHO says[3] from update 75, 15 Nov 09 data (which remember it’s said nobody is counting anymore)  “over 526060” cases, there are “at least 6770” deaths. That’s 1.2% nearly 30 times greater than the UK figure.

How strange.

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[1] http:///www.who.int/entity/csr/don/2009_11_13/en/index.html

[1b] BBC NEWS  Health  Swine flu how the numbers add up (timestamp: Page last updated at 17:06 GMT, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:06 UK – local archived webpage)

[1c]  http:///news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8357279.stm

[1d] http:///news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8083179.stm

[1e] http:///www.who.int/csr/don/2009_07_06/en/index.html

[1f]
http:///news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8159488.stm

[2] =  http:///www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ferguswalsh/  Friday 13th November.

[3] http:///www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_20a/en/index.html

(Remove the third slash for the purposes of following the links)

 

Nov 13 09 – Update on the swine flu

There were 64,000 estimated new cases in England last week, down from 84,000 the week before. Chief medical officer Sir Liam Donaldson said the figures were difficult to interpret because officials said the impact of half-term could last for two weeks. Next week’s figures should give a fuller picture of how the virus is developing, he said. Figures for swine flu tend to be higher when children are in school as they are known to spread the virus easily. Thursday’s data showed a rise in the number of people dying from the virus, with 124 deaths in England – up from 105 in the previous week. The number of people in hospital has dropped slightly to 785, of whom 173 are in intensive care. In total, 182 people across the UK have died after contracting swine flu.

Source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091112/tuk-half-term-sparks-fall-in-swine-flu-6323e80.html

Quick comment: Is “182 people across the UK have died after contracting swine flu.” the same as “182 people across the UK have died from contracting swine flu.” – I don’t think so. Notice the wording “64,000 estimated new cases” compared to 84,000 the week before. This gives an indication of supposed infectibity. At these rates, plus from what was reported previously, the population will autoimmune without any need for a stupid vaccine. Also the estimated figure is lower this week than the estimated figure last week. The science of statistics can prove useful, but unfortunately like beauty, statistics lie in the eye of the beholder. And statistics is the only science that can prove most people on the planet have more than the average number of legs. The statistical method of analysis should be open to examination. If it passes the test for lack of bias then fine, but I don’t think it’s hard to omagine the figures are simply cooked up.

SWINE FLU IS A MASSIVE SCAM imho.

Like all videos I (re)post here, I don’t necessarily endorse them, and I don’t have time to comment on them all, but I came across “thetruthgirls” a week or two ago and I like it :) (Cue Gerry and the Pacemakers…

(nostalga ends)

 

thetruthergirls swine flu
Ukraine Mutated Swine Flu is a Bioweapon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZG7D8YkNA

13 Year Old Toronto Boy Dies of H1N1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22wCD69vI8

I Got My Vax Notice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcbrO6eT1f8

CFR Plots Vaccine Shortage Scam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tl8pw99HNw
Vaccine Induced Swine Flu Outbreak on Ship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9aJqT7kWx0

Would you like a slap with that vaccine?

Damn the idiots who scoffed and rolled their eyes, muttering things like ‘conspiracy theorist!’ when good people, people free or much more free from ‘conflict of interest’, tried to educate and bring you to a position whereby you would just STOP, look around, then begin to assess the utter crap the BBC and other newz {‘newz’ because they certainly can’t be called ‘news’} outlets were falling over themselves to broadcast about “novel A H1N1”.

If you did come across some of the things ‘conspiracy theorists’ were saying and you still ate your Tamiflu, shovelled it don the throats of your kids, ate you antibacterials(you dupe), donned your masks with gaping holes, then I hope you are ashamed of yourself.

What do you mean you were acting on medical advice? Lobbox! You were acting primarily from your own sheer laziness and abdication of your own responsibility to do some work and learn something impinging upon your life. As well as idleness, you once again, allowed the fear factory to touch your soul, giving General Practitioners who know of your ignorance and occasionally use it in order that they may rub their hands in glee at the prospect of a good week on the ledgers. Consultation fears, pharmaceutical commissions, mask sales and so on. GP’s who are marginally less ignorant about vaccination than you but from my experience, more ignorant than some Joe Bloggs from the street who’s spent half a couple of days researching about virus’s, Tamiflu claims, FDA and CDC documentation, the history of vaccination and the financial prostitution of the government and corruption of the health industry (yes INDUSTRY) all with an eye to making a quick buck whether it kills you or not.

This isn’t M.D. bashing. It IS ‘corrupt M.D. bashing’ and its YOU bashing.

Damn.

Gardasil & Swine Flu, Inconvenient Truth 08-24-09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtruyRmI_M
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/August-2009/Gardasil-Swine-Flu-Vaccines-Inconvenient-Truths.aspx

Mexican swine flu ‘pandemic’ – disgraceful journalism by the BBC

Latest:

There is a video going around called: Swine Flu Was Cultured In A Laboratory Dr John Carlo Dallas Co Medical Director. Link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZYi7QAIwPA DON’T BELIEVE THE CLAIMS MADE ABOUT IT. The video has obviously been deliberately cut to make it appear as though a slip-up has been made, yielding an unwitting confession that the virus is synthetic. That is just as disgusting as what the BBC has done. There is sufficient evidence to suggest a conspiracy here at worst, gross sloppyness and rampant commercialisation at best, but this video is definately something that needs to be binned.  

Please copy the information here. Lwtc247. I think I’ve finished the post now. Please read it. I believe it raises VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.

Once again the BBC News and Current affairs exhibits some of the most appalling journalism possible.

On Friday 24th April the BBC was reporting 60 had died…

Friday  24th April 2009:

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Note: They say it began in the middle of March. That’s peculiar. As you will find out below, there are only 8 confirmed dead. If this has been going on for OVER one month already, then 8 deaths over one month from an as yet uncharacterised virus(?-see later) could surely NOT have caused alarm. Also it means that over 30 days passed where maximum of  8 confirmed cases were known, yet they reported it as over 60.

Shameful.

More recently, on Tuesday April 28th and Wed 29th April 150 had died…

 

Tuesday 28th April 2009:

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Wednesday 29th April 2009:

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 What on earth is Garden Broom doing revealing information about suspected swine fever cases? Well it’s obvious isn’t it really. He’s the ‘leader’ – the big reassuring, informed boss to guide us through this so called pandemic. What a guy. My hero. The same NeoLabour stinky ‘management’ [i.e. control freakery] that we’ve come so used to seeing.

150 dead from swine flu now. Given the rubbish the BBC are reporting about the numbers of dead, I wonder about the number in hospital with symptoms as reported on Tuesday.  Where did these numbers come from?

As well as reporting these definitive statements (lies by another name). Today we have this:

Friday Thurs 30th Apr 2009)

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So, for at least 4 days, the BBC were reporting as FACT that large numbers of deaths had occured and now it says only 8 are confirmed to have died from it. That’s 4 WHOLE days (minimum) of peddling total fear-inducing,  incorrect rubbish. That is utterly disgraceful. A complete failure of journalist. BBC Newz (Newz, cos it certainy ain’t ‘News’) heads should be fired. No public apologies. No shame, no remorse of their slip-slop-swill.

And to make matters worse all the other supporting BS about this has gone unchecked too. Click this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p002v3jh/Analysis_Swine_flu/ to listen to this piece of presstituting.

I’ve made a VERY ROUGH transcript (Note: some bits missing) Report by Matt McGrath – BBC Science reporter.

Note: PLEASE capture this audio and save it! I’m not able to so. In addition to the stunning revelation in this audio file, there are chilling words spoken at the end by Rahm Emanuel who says things loons are familiar with – the political expediency of crises (all of which look increasingly synthesised).

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Scients though believe pigs are a perfect mixing vessels for more than one type of influenze virus, being able to support the replication of human and avian flu strains aswell. All these virus’s have the ability to swap genetic material and recombine in into new forms in the right conditions. According to the CDC, that’s what’s happened in Mexico, where this new H1N1 virus has emerged from pigs and become infectious to people.

Prof Jangu Banatvala an expert on clinical virology at Kings College London (see appendix) he says that as new flu virus’s go, this one is quite unusual: “Interestingly enough, the swine virus was not a very spreadable virus – there were a few cases from time to time, but this one is rather different. The pig is a very good mixing vessel [lwtc247: duplicitious – ‘reinforcement’. The journo heard Prof. Banatvala say this before compiling his report and mantioned the word forst which ‘shows’ the Prof is agreeing with what the journo said. What a clever journo] for viruses and if you look a the genetic make up of the virus, it’s got a bit of human, 2 bits of pig virus – one from the states, one from europe, and a touch of the avian virus as well. Anyway it is spreading….. [This is DATED: BBC World Service, 11:41pm Tuesday 28th April 2009 (see later). URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p002v3jh/Analysis_Swine_flu/] I can think of one way in which Prof Banatvala knows the structure of this virus, and I’m sure you can too.

Comment: Yet http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8021167.stm, a BBC article by Fergus Walsh dated Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK says a UK lab is ready to analyse swine flu . Are you telling me in the space of a day Prof Jangu Banatvala managed to accumulate all this information about this virus? A man who wasn’t even sent the

Getting back to Matt McGraths’s report:

Since 1997 flu scientists have been monitoring avian influenza very carefully. that strain has killed people all over the world. Mostly those who have been in direct contact with infected birds. 

What’s worrying  What is unusual about this new swine flu is how rapidly it has aquited the ability to transfer between people. Pigs are no longer required to spread this infection. [WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF THIS?] 

Dr Mike Skinner is a virologist at Imperial College London:

Flu seems to be very well adapted at spreading between humans when it has evolved in the right way. We’ve seen H5N1 is unable to spread at the moment between humans but this flu, clearly seems to have the abilities of the normal flu we are all familiar which spreads readily each season.

Flu viruses are spread by droplets these infected secretions can travel about a metre via coughs and sneezes. The virus itself can survive for several hours on a surface such as door knob or a telephone. What it needs most of all is people and according to Dr. Francisco Moreno, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the American and British Calare hospital in Mexico, his city is an ideal environment for a new flu virus to spread.

Dr Moreno: “…”
  
Scientists are concerned that this new H1N1 swine virus is already showing itself to be a deadly strain. Prof High Pennington form the University of Aberdeen explains how a flu virus like this can kill:

“The virus itself can cause a very severe pneumonia and the body reacts very violently to the virus and basically the lungs fill with water and you die because you cant breathe. Or you get damage to the lungs caused by the virus which can be very severe in its own right…”


One of the most mysterious aspects of this outbreak is why it appears to be is killing people in Mexico and not elsewhere in the world. Some experts say [who? which experts?] that it could be because o the presence of other infections in those who have died or a lack of nutrition compared to people who have contracted the virus in other countries. According to Prof Paul Hunter front he School of med and health policy and practice at the Uni in East Anglia it could be the virus has change tack to ensure it spreads further. If it’s too virulent too quickly, it wont get very far.
“?The Virus can evolve, and you see this with a range of virus you get from animals. The 1st people exposed have a vey high fatality rate, but people who get infected from them, have a much lower mortality rate as the virus sort of seems to realise that actually if it wants to propagate itself, it better not kill these people and so it sort of loses its virulence as it passages through humans. And that may well explain what we’re seeing in that the way the symptoms are not as severe as the visitors to Mexico as in some of the primary cases”
But while the authorities say that around 150 people have died in Mexico as a result of this new influenza strain, tests carried out on samples from the country, at the CDC in Atlanta, have so far only confirmed only a small number of those are suffering from the same virus that has appeared in several US states.
According to Dr Francesco Moreno it may be that actually there’s more than one virus affecting people in Mexico  and that might complicate attempts to stop it.
“you may be having here in Mexico a different stereotype(??) of the strain that has been recovered(recorded?) from the US. Secondly, probably some of the  cases treated when the patients was a very severe deal and the response to anti-virals when the patient has had the disease for more than 72 hours is not as good as if used … right away.
(?)
The fact that most of the victims of this swine flue have been young people is troubling for scientists/ Its an irony of very dangerous outbreaks of flu, that the young and the healthy are the ones who succumb first. This is because The virus turns your immune system against you, and The stronger you are the quicker you can die. As well as its potential virulence scientists are also concerned that this infection has spread far enough and wide enough to speak a global pandemic. Dr. Mike Skinner of Imperial College London  says while the new strain of sewing flue cannot be contained it can be dealt with.
“Were beyond the containment one can hope to slow it down, the spread, but we probably would never stop it spreading around the world effectively, its hard to see how we would be able to do that but we can slow it down and give authorities time to handle it. If indeed it does turn out to be a true pandemic threat.”

 

However the years of preparation and observation caused by worries over avian influenza, have not been wasted. Monitoring systems in many parts of the world have been upgraded and plans to deal with pandemic outbreaks have been developed and rehearsed. 

 

[Contradicts nutrition problem mentioned earlier in Mexico.]

Crucially though many countries have stockpiled doses of anti-viral medications, such as tamiflu and rolenza(?). Both of these have been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak. Professor sir Hu Pennington again:

“Tamiflu works against this virus which is one very good piece of news. We’ve [‘We’ ? does that mean Pennington was instrumental in making Tamiflu? If so is he on royalties, and if so why are the BBC allowing this free advertising?] never really tried it on a large scale so we’ll have to see how well it works, but at least we have something which works well against the virus which in previous pandemics we didn’t have so we have an advantage, a big advantage over previous pandemics.”

The world has had 4 viral pandemics over the last 100 years, including SARS in 2003 and scientific experts say we are overdue another. But whether this new swine flu outbreak becomes a global disease with the potential to infect millions remains to be seen. We have better monitoring and action plans and effective drugs. However the best weapon against a deadly virus is a new vaccine. That will take at least 6 months to deliver (!!! – Horrifying. LONG CLINICAL TRIALS bypassed!) in that time lag a pandemic virus could have a deadly impact all over the world.

Rahm Emanuel:

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. What I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 SUMMARY:

1) How does Prof Banatvala know the detailed structure of this virus? This is a VERY significant question. The report saying UK labs were expecting samples to analyse was published only ONE DAY before Banatvala detailed description of the virus.

2) Pennington says Tamiflu works against THIS virus. How does he know? Were are the results the tests of Tamiflu with THIS virus. This could mean they had access to that virus before last month. This is also a freightening question? If the explanation isn’t the sinister one, he is still talking absolute rubbish as there is no quantified scientific data about how good Tamiflu is. And in fact, I looked up what the FDA said about Tamiflu. The FDA specifically says this:

“Tamiflu has not been shown to treat flu-like illnesses caused by any virus other than influenza A and B” – source

3) Why would governments stock up on tamiflu when it is only authorised to claim it trreats influenza A and B? Who has been arranging for governments to buy this? How does McGrath know governments have been doing this.

4) McGrath once again repeats what a scientist says before playing the clip of what the scientist says. Just like he did about pigs. This time, McGrath also claimed Tamiflu had been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak, yet still, no scientific study had been undertaken.

5) The BBC lied about the number of deaths and does not reveal it’s sources of important information.

Update on (We will take from you your) Labor day. 1st May 2009.

1) The BBC report by Matt McGrath has been captured. You can listen to it here.

Alex Jones’ Prison Planet hosts an article witht he title: Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes
Thursday, April 30, 2009 (URL=http://www.prisonplanet.com/swine-flu-does-not-contain-human-and-bird-genes.html). In the article we get this quote

“This is what we call a reassortment between two currently circulating pig flu viruses. Why it’s emerged in humans is anyone’s guess. It hasn’t been seen before in pigs, as far as I know,” – University of Edinburgh Viral Geneticist Andrew Rambaut….The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) harvested the viral samples, and then made the genome sequence available to a number of research teams around the world, under what was known as an international database of flu genomes. Though Wired could not obtain an immediate response from the American authorities, documents released by the agency to scientists seem to confirm the suspicions that the lethal strain is actually made up entirely of pig genes, without any other additions…”The experts said that the two strains involved in the new pathogen were the North American and the European pig flu”

That sounds very similar to what Prof Banatvala was saying. BUT Prof Banatvala said it also contained avian and human genetic information. It seems very unlikely therefore that the Prof was getting his data from the centre that mapped out the swine fever genome. So we must still ask: What info does/did the prof have that made him say it contianed human and avian flu? Where did it come from? And what does it mean? If the ‘expert in clinical virology’ Prof Banatvala is correct,  HOW did human genes get into the pig? How did bird flu get into the pig? It is not unreasonable to suggest they were DELIBERATELY put them there. After all, the ‘experts’ have told us pigs are excellent ‘mixing labs’ for hybrid virus’s . It is not surprosing that the story has evolved to talk down the presence of human and bird flu in this new H1N1. That is typical of a conspiracy.

This article: Swine flu source spawns wild theories, Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:27pm EDT (URL=http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE53T3ZK20090430) reports Paul Yeo, a virologist at Durham University in Britain, saying on Thursday (30th April 2009):

The problem now with this virus is that it has picked up a mixture of elements, now including human elements. It’s a complex virus.”

and  the New Scientist’s biology editor Michael Le Page wrote in the same article:

“The claim of the conspiracy theorists is that this new combination could not have occurred naturally, but this is not true,”

“Flu viruses consisting of a mixture of human, swine and bird strains have been found before.”

Clearly some DISINFORMATION is abound.

Appendix:

 

 1) Professor Jangu Banatvala CBE MA MD FRCP FRCPath FMedSci [Chairman]
Emeritus Professor of Clinical Virology
Guy’s, King’s & St.Thomas’ School of Medicine

http://www.cfsrf.com/Staff.htm

 

2) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8021167.stm
Page last updated at 15:42 GMT, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK
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 UK lab ready to analyse swine flu
By Fergus Walsh 
 
Quote: In a high level containment lab, UK scientists are getting ready to receive live samples of swine flu, which they intend to analyse in the hope of combating this disease.

The samples will come from affected patients in California, and possibly Mexico and Spain.

The scientists at the NIMR will take different virus samples, grow them and infect laboratory ferrets with them.

Ferrets get flu in a similar way to humans and produce an immune response.

Scientists will analyse the antibodies found in the ferrets’ blood and see whether the virus is showing signs of antigenic drift – in simple terms whether it is adapting and changing as it passes from person to person.

Seasonal vaccine protection?

Swine flu is an H1N1 virus, but it seems quite distinct from the human H1N1 strain included in the current seasonal, winter vaccine.

It is unclear whether the seasonal vaccine would give any protection.

One theory is that while it might not prevent someone getting swine flu, it could lessen its effects.


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