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There is a video going around called: Swine Flu Was Cultured In A Laboratory Dr John Carlo Dallas Co Medical Director. Link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZYi7QAIwPA DON’T BELIEVE THE CLAIMS MADE ABOUT IT. The video has obviously been deliberately cut to make it appear as though a slip-up has been made, yielding an unwitting confession that the virus is synthetic. That is just as disgusting as what the BBC has done. There is sufficient evidence to suggest a conspiracy here at worst, gross sloppyness and rampant commercialisation at best, but this video is definately something that needs to be binned.
Please copy the information here. Lwtc247. I think I’ve finished the post now. Please read it. I believe it raises VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
Once again the BBC News and Current affairs exhibits some of the most appalling journalism possible.
On Friday 24th April the BBC was reporting 60 had died…
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Friday 24th April 2009:
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Note: They say it began in the middle of March. That’s peculiar. As you will find out below, there are only 8 confirmed dead. If this has been going on for OVER one month already, then 8 deaths over one month from an as yet uncharacterised virus(?-see later) could surely NOT have caused alarm. Also it means that over 30 days passed where maximum of 8 confirmed cases were known, yet they reported it as over 60.
Shameful.
More recently, on Tuesday April 28th and Wed 29th April 150 had died…
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Tuesday 28th April 2009:
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Wednesday 29th April 2009:
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What on earth is Garden Broom doing revealing information about suspected swine fever cases? Well it’s obvious isn’t it really. He’s the ‘leader’ – the big reassuring, informed boss to guide us through this so called pandemic. What a guy. My hero. The same NeoLabour stinky ‘management’ [i.e. control freakery] that we’ve come so used to seeing.
150 dead from swine flu now. Given the rubbish the BBC are reporting about the numbers of dead, I wonder about the number in hospital with symptoms as reported on Tuesday. Where did these numbers come from?
As well as reporting these definitive statements (lies by another name). Today we have this:
Friday Thurs 30th Apr 2009)
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So, for at least 4 days, the BBC were reporting as FACT that large numbers of deaths had occured and now it says only 8 are confirmed to have died from it. That’s 4 WHOLE days (minimum) of peddling total fear-inducing, incorrect rubbish. That is utterly disgraceful. A complete failure of journalist. BBC Newz (Newz, cos it certainy ain’t ‘News’) heads should be fired. No public apologies. No shame, no remorse of their slip-slop-swill.
And to make matters worse all the other supporting BS about this has gone unchecked too. Click this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p002v3jh/Analysis_Swine_flu/ to listen to this piece of presstituting.
I’ve made a VERY ROUGH transcript (Note: some bits missing) Report by Matt McGrath – BBC Science reporter.
Note: PLEASE capture this audio and save it! I’m not able to so. In addition to the stunning revelation in this audio file, there are chilling words spoken at the end by Rahm Emanuel who says things loons are familiar with – the political expediency of crises (all of which look increasingly synthesised).
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Scients though believe pigs are a perfect mixing vessels for more than one type of influenze virus, being able to support the replication of human and avian flu strains aswell. All these virus’s have the ability to swap genetic material and recombine in into new forms in the right conditions. According to the CDC, that’s what’s happened in Mexico, where this new H1N1 virus has emerged from pigs and become infectious to people.
Prof Jangu Banatvala an expert on clinical virology at Kings College London (see appendix) he says that as new flu virus’s go, this one is quite unusual: “Interestingly enough, the swine virus was not a very spreadable virus – there were a few cases from time to time, but this one is rather different. The pig is a very good mixing vessel [lwtc247: duplicitious – ‘reinforcement’. The journo heard Prof. Banatvala say this before compiling his report and mantioned the word forst which ‘shows’ the Prof is agreeing with what the journo said. What a clever journo] for viruses and if you look a the genetic make up of the virus, it’s got a bit of human, 2 bits of pig virus – one from the states, one from europe, and a touch of the avian virus as well. Anyway it is spreading….. [This is DATED: BBC World Service, 11:41pm Tuesday 28th April 2009 (see later). URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p002v3jh/Analysis_Swine_flu/] I can think of one way in which Prof Banatvala knows the structure of this virus, and I’m sure you can too.
Comment: Yet http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8021167.stm, a BBC article by Fergus Walsh dated Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK says a UK lab is ready to analyse swine flu . Are you telling me in the space of a day Prof Jangu Banatvala managed to accumulate all this information about this virus? A man who wasn’t even sent the
Getting back to Matt McGraths’s report:
Since 1997 flu scientists have been monitoring avian influenza very carefully. that strain has killed people all over the world. Mostly those who have been in direct contact with infected birds.
What’s worrying What is unusual about this new swine flu is how rapidly it has aquited the ability to transfer between people. Pigs are no longer required to spread this infection. [WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF THIS?]
Dr Mike Skinner is a virologist at Imperial College London:
Flu seems to be very well adapted at spreading between humans when it has evolved in the right way. We’ve seen H5N1 is unable to spread at the moment between humans but this flu, clearly seems to have the abilities of the normal flu we are all familiar which spreads readily each season.
Flu viruses are spread by droplets these infected secretions can travel about a metre via coughs and sneezes. The virus itself can survive for several hours on a surface such as door knob or a telephone. What it needs most of all is people and according to Dr. Francisco Moreno, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the American and British Calare hospital in Mexico, his city is an ideal environment for a new flu virus to spread.
Dr Moreno: “…”
Scientists are concerned that this new H1N1 swine virus is already showing itself to be a deadly strain. Prof High Pennington form the University of Aberdeen explains how a flu virus like this can kill:
“The virus itself can cause a very severe pneumonia and the body reacts very violently to the virus and basically the lungs fill with water and you die because you cant breathe. Or you get damage to the lungs caused by the virus which can be very severe in its own right…”
One of the most mysterious aspects of this outbreak is why it appears to be is killing people in Mexico and not elsewhere in the world. Some experts say [who? which experts?] that it could be because o the presence of other infections in those who have died or a lack of nutrition compared to people who have contracted the virus in other countries. According to Prof Paul Hunter front he School of med and health policy and practice at the Uni in East Anglia it could be the virus has change tack to ensure it spreads further. If it’s too virulent too quickly, it wont get very far.
“?The Virus can evolve, and you see this with a range of virus you get from animals. The 1st people exposed have a vey high fatality rate, but people who get infected from them, have a much lower mortality rate as the virus sort of seems to realise that actually if it wants to propagate itself, it better not kill these people and so it sort of loses its virulence as it passages through humans. And that may well explain what we’re seeing in that the way the symptoms are not as severe as the visitors to Mexico as in some of the primary cases”
But while the authorities say that around 150 people have died in Mexico as a result of this new influenza strain, tests carried out on samples from the country, at the CDC in Atlanta, have so far only confirmed only a small number of those are suffering from the same virus that has appeared in several US states.
According to Dr Francesco Moreno it may be that actually there’s more than one virus affecting people in Mexico and that might complicate attempts to stop it.
“you may be having here in Mexico a different stereotype(??) of the strain that has been recovered(recorded?) from the US. Secondly, probably some of the cases treated when the patients was a very severe deal and the response to anti-virals when the patient has had the disease for more than 72 hours is not as good as if used … right away.
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The fact that most of the victims of this swine flue have been young people is troubling for scientists/ Its an irony of very dangerous outbreaks of flu, that the young and the healthy are the ones who succumb first. This is because The virus turns your immune system against you, and The stronger you are the quicker you can die. As well as its potential virulence scientists are also concerned that this infection has spread far enough and wide enough to speak a global pandemic. Dr. Mike Skinner of Imperial College London says while the new strain of sewing flue cannot be contained it can be dealt with.
“Were beyond the containment one can hope to slow it down, the spread, but we probably would never stop it spreading around the world effectively, its hard to see how we would be able to do that but we can slow it down and give authorities time to handle it. If indeed it does turn out to be a true pandemic threat.”
However the years of preparation and observation caused by worries over avian influenza, have not been wasted. Monitoring systems in many parts of the world have been upgraded and plans to deal with pandemic outbreaks have been developed and rehearsed.
[Contradicts nutrition problem mentioned earlier in Mexico.]
Crucially though many countries have stockpiled doses of anti-viral medications, such as tamiflu and rolenza(?). Both of these have been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak. Professor sir Hu Pennington again:
“Tamiflu works against this virus which is one very good piece of news. We’ve [‘We’ ? does that mean Pennington was instrumental in making Tamiflu? If so is he on royalties, and if so why are the BBC allowing this free advertising?] never really tried it on a large scale so we’ll have to see how well it works, but at least we have something which works well against the virus which in previous pandemics we didn’t have so we have an advantage, a big advantage over previous pandemics.”
The world has had 4 viral pandemics over the last 100 years, including SARS in 2003 and scientific experts say we are overdue another. But whether this new swine flu outbreak becomes a global disease with the potential to infect millions remains to be seen. We have better monitoring and action plans and effective drugs. However the best weapon against a deadly virus is a new vaccine. That will take at least 6 months to deliver (!!! – Horrifying. LONG CLINICAL TRIALS bypassed!) in that time lag a pandemic virus could have a deadly impact all over the world.
Rahm Emanuel:
“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. What I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”
SUMMARY:
1) How does Prof Banatvala know the detailed structure of this virus? This is a VERY significant question. The report saying UK labs were expecting samples to analyse was published only ONE DAY before Banatvala detailed description of the virus.
2) Pennington says Tamiflu works against THIS virus. How does he know? Were are the results the tests of Tamiflu with THIS virus. This could mean they had access to that virus before last month. This is also a freightening question? If the explanation isn’t the sinister one, he is still talking absolute rubbish as there is no quantified scientific data about how good Tamiflu is. And in fact, I looked up what the FDA said about Tamiflu. The FDA specifically says this:
“Tamiflu has not been shown to treat flu-like illnesses caused by any virus other than influenza A and B” – source
3) Why would governments stock up on tamiflu when it is only authorised to claim it trreats influenza A and B? Who has been arranging for governments to buy this? How does McGrath know governments have been doing this.
4) McGrath once again repeats what a scientist says before playing the clip of what the scientist says. Just like he did about pigs. This time, McGrath also claimed Tamiflu had been shown to be effective against the Mexican outbreak, yet still, no scientific study had been undertaken.
5) The BBC lied about the number of deaths and does not reveal it’s sources of important information.
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Update on (We will take from you your) Labor day. 1st May 2009.
1) The BBC report by Matt McGrath has been captured. You can listen to it here.
Alex Jones’ Prison Planet hosts an article witht he title: Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes
Thursday, April 30, 2009 (URL=http://www.prisonplanet.com/swine-flu-does-not-contain-human-and-bird-genes.html). In the article we get this quote
“This is what we call a reassortment between two currently circulating pig flu viruses. Why it’s emerged in humans is anyone’s guess. It hasn’t been seen before in pigs, as far as I know,” – University of Edinburgh Viral Geneticist Andrew Rambaut….The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) harvested the viral samples, and then made the genome sequence available to a number of research teams around the world, under what was known as an international database of flu genomes. Though Wired could not obtain an immediate response from the American authorities, documents released by the agency to scientists seem to confirm the suspicions that the lethal strain is actually made up entirely of pig genes, without any other additions…”The experts said that the two strains involved in the new pathogen were the North American and the European pig flu”
That sounds very similar to what Prof Banatvala was saying. BUT Prof Banatvala said it also contained avian and human genetic information. It seems very unlikely therefore that the Prof was getting his data from the centre that mapped out the swine fever genome. So we must still ask: What info does/did the prof have that made him say it contianed human and avian flu? Where did it come from? And what does it mean? If the ‘expert in clinical virology’ Prof Banatvala is correct, HOW did human genes get into the pig? How did bird flu get into the pig? It is not unreasonable to suggest they were DELIBERATELY put them there. After all, the ‘experts’ have told us pigs are excellent ‘mixing labs’ for hybrid virus’s . It is not surprosing that the story has evolved to talk down the presence of human and bird flu in this new H1N1. That is typical of a conspiracy.
This article: Swine flu source spawns wild theories, Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:27pm EDT (URL=http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE53T3ZK20090430) reports Paul Yeo, a virologist at Durham University in Britain, saying on Thursday (30th April 2009):
The problem now with this virus is that it has picked up a mixture of elements, now including human elements. It’s a complex virus.”
and the New Scientist’s biology editor Michael Le Page wrote in the same article:
“The claim of the conspiracy theorists is that this new combination could not have occurred naturally, but this is not true,”
“Flu viruses consisting of a mixture of human, swine and bird strains have been found before.”
Clearly some DISINFORMATION is abound.
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Appendix:
1) Professor Jangu Banatvala CBE MA MD FRCP FRCPath FMedSci [Chairman]
Emeritus Professor of Clinical Virology
Guy’s, King’s & St.Thomas’ School of Medicine
http://www.cfsrf.com/Staff.htm
2) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8021167.stm
Page last updated at 15:42 GMT, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:42 UK
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UK lab ready to analyse swine flu
By Fergus Walsh
Quote: In a high level containment lab, UK scientists are getting ready to receive live samples of swine flu, which they intend to analyse in the hope of combating this disease.
The samples will come from affected patients in California, and possibly Mexico and Spain.
The scientists at the NIMR will take different virus samples, grow them and infect laboratory ferrets with them.
Ferrets get flu in a similar way to humans and produce an immune response.
Scientists will analyse the antibodies found in the ferrets’ blood and see whether the virus is showing signs of antigenic drift – in simple terms whether it is adapting and changing as it passes from person to person.
Seasonal vaccine protection?
Swine flu is an H1N1 virus, but it seems quite distinct from the human H1N1 strain included in the current seasonal, winter vaccine.
It is unclear whether the seasonal vaccine would give any protection.
One theory is that while it might not prevent someone getting swine flu, it could lessen its effects.
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