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Vaccine vaccine, happy slappy

The problem with an informed person is that they can see crap when crap is spoken. Take this Mexican Swine Flu (I find the morphing of it’s name rather interesting – do you?), or novel A H1N1 virus scam.

Regular readers will know I’ve been very critical of the utterly baseless ‘more dangerous mutant strain’ lobbox and I’ve previously argued that if the mutant strain is now te most significant threat – the potential ‘mass killer’ we must all fear, then if the virus does mutated, it nullifies the current crop of vaccines.

boy with tongue out 

Oh dear. It seems they forgot about that – or didn’t expect (many)people to realise that. Amazing what just a pinch of logic and normal thinking can achieve. 

“They” were (of course) just relying on the peoples ‘idiot factor’ to slavishly follow a.k.a. ‘trust’, those ‘health professionals’ that assure us they know things we couldn’t possibly understand.

So what to do in the face of logic arguments? Simple. You talk the particular strain of lobbox that suits you at any particular time.

So our dearly beloved esoterically statured health professionals talk-the-talk that makes us scared, wanna buy Tamiflu, and masks. When the people realise the projjected nightmare isn’t in fact happening, ‘more deadly mutant strain’ is rolled out. When people complain that 4 weeks of ‘testing’ (LOL) is ridiculous, then assurances the ‘fast tracking’ isn’t any less safe (can you believe this crap?). Then, when people realise the lobbox that’s been spouted out that the vaccine wont protect against their  ‘more deadly mutant strain’, now all of a sudden there is no evidence of mutation (at least until that is, until hundreds of millions will have been vaccinated).

“Bracing for H1N1” – Faux Newz
TouTube poster dated this report on 10th Sept 2009

[2m 21s] “I know One of the concerns expressed as they are testing this vaccine is that the H1N1 virus is going to mutate and change then maybe the virus or the vaccine doesn’t work so well. Is there any evidence of mutation”

“[2m25s] So far No, and that’s that the good news… [2m36s] So far no evidence of mutation yet.” – Molly Hennenberg”

– yeah, I know Faux Newz, what do you expect, but thing is, it’s exemplary.


Oh yeah, if you’re interested, a snapshot of my stance:

Vaccination may have a function to play, but history and common sense shows that when companies stand to make millions and millions of dollars, they will cheat their horrid little buns off to make those millions, no matter what ‘little’ person stands in their way.

If vaccination does have a role to play, it must be done with TOTAL freedom of information. All records of conceptualisation, design, synthesis, safety and accounting should be made available to any independent groups made up of citizens. It should be possible to conduct random sampling by any citizen who requests it.

In medical emergencies, vaccine and medical companies should have forced upon them, a ‘public service status’ whereby they are compelled to provide vaccines AT COST PRICE (again accounting measured assessed by civilian groups).

Vaccines should NOT be developed from other animal species, including the blood/kidneys of green monkeys, or in eggs etc.

Vaccines should be offered as a choice with no repercussions of ostracisation should one decide not to vaccinate.

Breaches of health protocols by vaccine manufacturers, administers and even distributors and those involved with logistics, should experience a fast-track to court.

I really don’t like the health profession is allowed to run on a company profit basis.


As of the time or wtiting (Tuesday 15th Sept 2009) the BBC hasn’t bothered to update it’s swine flue page since: “Page last updated at 13:57 GMT, Thursday, 20 August 2009 14:57 UK”, such is the ‘severity’ of swine flu.

The CDC tries to keep an weekly report about it:

You could do a lot worse than to take a visit to the National(US) Vaccine Information Center(US spelling of centre)  spearheaded by Barbara Loe Fisher (as appears in my previous blog post)

Here’s some more questionably TV stuff from.. whaddya know… Faux Newz!…

Flu Fighters

Which I will hope to comment on later.

Vaccine Orgy

I used to think vaccines were a good thing. That was until I actually learned something about them.

Here’s a short video:

Vaccines REALLY Safe? – Mary Tocco  2m 55s

In a conversation with a family member about vaccines, a lady said she vaccinated her son to prevent measles. Guess what? He got measles. I told her the vaccine didn’t work. She said if he hadn’t have had the vaccine his measles would have been worse. I asked her how did she know that? I got no logical reply.

The issue of vaccines is dominated on public percieved wisdom, which is actually: wholesale ignorance. Cheerleading ‘things vaccine’  are the public who mentally convince themselves they are ‘sicnece liberated’ and will, for a few reasons, repeat what ‘sounds scientific’. The second set are those who gain financially from the idea and infrastructure of vaccines, either by earning a salary as say a cleaner in a lab that deals with vaccines, or via royalties which doubltessly claimed by many so called ‘experts’ in the field of virology.

If the claims about vaccines were true, then I wouldn’t have any problem with the above. However the mind-warping rubbish spouted out about vaccines and the obvious conflict of interest by vaccine advocates, as well as the FACT that the field of vaccine research is parallel with that biowarfare, all comes to mean that I have a VERY BIG PROBLEM with ‘things vaccine’.

On the one hand vaccines appear successful: Polio and Smallpox to name but two, however it is rather intellectually fraudulent to only look at the apparent successes and not the dangers or possible dangers? But let’s leave aside a few issues for now, e.g. the biowarfare element.

We have been pumping vaccines into our bodies for decades yet the new viri (the awkward sounding but correct plural of virus)  viruses (OED does not recognise viri) seem to be breaking out with greater frequency.


Sanitation and general nutrition as generally improved globally has it not? (at this point we’ll leave out food pollutants like aspartame, MSG and E-numbers). Allow me to stick with that debateable claim.

I can think of a few reason why:

1) The nucleic acids and proteins of all these accumulated vaccines in our bodies produce unstudied effects within our bodies which are detrimental to our health.

2) The additives e.g. stabilizers such as thiomersal (a compound containing mercury) exert a toxic effect. In fact I think about a year ago I read a US medical report calling for zero mercury levels to exist in human biological applications (can’t remember the specifics, sorry)

3) Vaccines themselves, by the very way they are produced COULD THEMSELVES mutate in ways similar to the viri viruses the vaccines are supposed to nullify).

Here’s some stuff from the BBC Newz website:


Two different techniques are being used.

First, “reverse genetics”, where scientists take the H and the N surface proteins from the H1N1 virus and mix them with a laboratory virus known as PR8.

This creates a harmless hybrid virus which can be used for the vaccine.

The second technique involves injecting both the H1N1 and PR8 viruses into eggs and allowing the hybrid strain to be created through a natural re-assortment of their genes.

The vaccine will work by tricking the immune system into thinking it has been infected with the H1N1 swine flu virus so that it creates antibodies against it.

Is this seemingly greater occurance of scary viri viruses (again I’ll have to leave out another important element: Govt fear mongering, burying of significant events and junk journalism) connected with the numbers of vaccines we are taking? – source


The hype and presstituting of selling Tamiflu and masks over the last few weeks have been a disgrace. No doubt about it.

The danger is that from all this JUNK – FEAR – OVER-INFLATION of the dangers etc, that should a real pandemic occuer then like the boy who cried wolf, the outcome could be serious. We should we wary in the light of suspected pandemic. 

I think the makers of Tamiflu should only have their costs met from the Tamiflu sales. The rest into an investigation into their research on these viri viruses.

Michel Chossudovsky, in his article here, says:

The Real Global Crisis is marked by poverty, economic collapse, ethnic strife, death and destruction, the derogation of civil rights and  the demise of State social programs. The EU announcement of the swine flu pandemic inevitably serves to weaken the social protest movement which has spread across Europe. – source:

He’s got a very strong point. But the-scum-that-be (tstb) who rule over us positively LOVE these events. Remember Rahm Emannuel the other day? It gives these scumsuckers enhanced dictaroial powers as well as the opportunity to make themselves look good and all ‘leadership’ like. YUCK! It so insincere. so fake. Just like the crap the BBC feveroushly pumped out ove the last week or so.

Henry Makow Ph.D. says:

When we hear about pig flu, let’s keep our focus on the big picture. We are infected by a more serious and widespread cancer, satanism, under the guises of communism, liberalism, socialism, zionism, fascism, feminism and globalism. Luciferianism permeates society in the form of materialism, naturalism, occultism, obscenity, sadism, violence, pornography and promiscuity. – source:

Here then, is a hopeful remedy, some counter-propaganda videos to try and give you a more knowledgeable view:

Vaccination – The Hidden Truth
(Pay careful attention to the Romanian(?) female Doctor  Dr. Viera Scheibnew PhD – an Australian scientist and her presentaion on the effectiveness of vaccines, who uses articles from some of the the most prestidgeous peer reviewed medical journals around)

Mary Tocco. Are vacciens safe? 2:37:45

Vaccine Nation – Director’s Cut (Gary Null)   1:29:40


Why Vaccines Aren’t Safe (  44:48

The loss of trust – Healthcare and conspiraloonacy
The self declared ‘”Trustworthy” Encyclopedia’ – Hmmmm…
Notice how, like in all similar schematics, nothing is ever presented
other than the impression of it being completely safe.

Michael Howard (ex-Tory leader of the UK conservative party and guess what… Conservative friend of Israel) said of the mass murderer Tony Blair, that because he lied to us about WMD in Iraq, that the public would not trust him again if a similar situation arose again.

It was rather bizarre that someone like Michael Howard would say such a thing. Whatever. As the legendary and mighty Howard Zinn said “Just remember two words: governments lie”. Tory MP, Michael Howard was however, essentially correct.

The thing is, and it’s particularly acute these days, we have been lied to about a whole host of things. Lies have been told and cover-ups have been conducted. 9-11 and 7-7 are just two simple examples, but it extends into the field of medicine too.

The long term poisoning of aspartame are well known. Part of aspartame contains a methyl ester group, and esters undergo hydrolysis in the body due to esterase enzymes found naturally in the body. Methyl esters are the worst because of the compounds they are hydrolysed to and subsequently oxidised in the body into methanal i.e. formaldehyde. The primary metabolites (initial breakdown products) of aspartame are able to penetrate the blood-brain barrier and so damage brain function. But the degrading health effects of aspartame are not halted (by banning apsartame) because the effect isn’t rapidly visible but also because it makes huge amounts of money for its manufacturers. {P.S. despite this leading Universities in the UK have conducted work on other natural methyl esters for application as emulsifiers – food processing agents commonly found in many foods, some research lead by cheered Professors}

Cover-ups and lies are embroiled with GM food, Power transmission cables, pollution via industry and nuclear power, banking/macroeconomics, pharmaceuticals and vaccines.

All of which causes high levels of distrust and sees people such as myself, causing people such as myself to be virtually unable to believe almost anything the government or big business says about almost everything. Thing is, it’s possible that even if they did tell the truth, it would be difficult for me to automatically believe it, unless and until strong evidence of their claims was made available andI had time to check it out, but there are so many other things to do in life that it’s impossible to check them all out, so I draw upon related knowledge, past experience and intuition to form an opinion, and that is almost always default heavy skepticism.

My inability to trust them causes me much personal frustration (I do after all, live with the conspiracy 24/7) and especially when it comes to vaccines.

There exists today a wealth of documentation that suggests vaccines are detrimental to human health, {and also the possibility, a likelihood IMO, that vaccines will eventually display ‘the antibiotic effect’ whereby long term vaccination leads to consequences that are terribly dangerous to general health} but there have also been a number of studies which say they are (in the short term)safe. However, I cannot believe that those studies are free from bias and vested interests, not least because they involve the government but also because I know about the way scientific teams and department are funded. And it’s surely cause for suspicion that any almost every scientific “advancement”, substance, pharmaceutical or vaccine which has large commercial value, is almost always approved and spoken of as though it is completely safe (or of such low risk that people will take the chance).

So here’s the problem… If say a vaccine was actually safe (and worked – there is a difference!), then I’m left in the worst of all positions because I cannot take it at face value that they aresafe (or work), so because the effect of big pharma and government lies, I could find myself unable to embrace something which may be beneficial. The worry is, that if by rejecting something that may actually give benefit, the potential consequences are very serious, and the dilemma weighs very heavily on my mind.

I guess many conspiraloons face similar situations.

But it’s not our fault!

The breach of trust towards the little guy from govt and big pharma has taken it’s toll, and I don’t see any way back – at least from a personal, middle aged lifetime scale of things. Isn’t it foolish in the extreme when after substantial knowledge of government / big pharma lies, that those experiences be junked in favour of unquestioning trust belief?

And ignorance is not bliss, it’s just plain ignorant!

Worthy link: Medicine and the New World Order” By The Antireptilian Iration


A case for anti-vaccination

Vaccination. If the concerns of those who deeply oppose aspects of Big Pharma are right, then this 10 minute clip video is very serious indeed. It’s an issue most people find hugely polarizing. What’s your take.

My transcription below:

Video starts:

—- Footage of Dr Maurice Hilleman appears as does  the url, {corrected URL 17th/1/08} his name and the title of the documentart this clip comes from: In Lies We Trust: The CIA, Hollywood & Bioterrorism.


   Commentator of “inlieswetrust”:

Listen now to the voice of the worlds leading vaccine expert Dr. Maurice Hilleman. Chief of the Merck pharmaceutical companies vaccine division, relay this problem he was having with imported monkeys. He best explains the origin of AIDS, but what you are about to hear, was cut from any public disclosures.

[00:23] Hilleman:  “And I think that vaccines have to be considered the bargain basement technology for the 20th Century.”

Commentary from the program “the Health Century” by Blackwell:
50 years ago when Maurice Hilleman was a high school student in miles city Montana, he hoped he might qualify as a management trainee for the local J C Penny store. Instead, he went on to pioneer more breakthroughs in vaccine research and development than anyone in the history of American medicine. Among the discoveries he made at Merck are vaccines for mumps, rubella and measles.

Interviewer: “Tell me how you found SV40 in the polio vaccine?”

Hilleman:  Well that was in Merck, I came to Merck and I was going to develop vaccines, and we had wild viruses in those days, you remember the wild monkey kidney virus’s and so forth, and I finally after six months gave up. I said that you cannot develop vaccines with these damn monkeys. Were finished and if I cant do something about it I’m gonna quit. Am I going to try it? So I went to see Bill Mann at the Zoo in Washington DC and I told Bill Mann, I said “Look, here’s a, I got a problem, I don’t know what the hell were doing, Bill Mann is a really bright guy, and I said these lousy monkeys are picking it up  while being stored in the airports, in transit at these loading offloading and loading. He said its very simple. He said you go ahead get the monkeys out of west Africa, and get the African Green, bring ’em into Madrid. Onload them there, there are no other traffics through there for animals, Fly them into Philadelphia, pick ‘em up. Or fly them pick ’em up in New York and pick ’em up. Right off the airplane.

[2:16] Hilleman: So I brought African Greens in. I didn’t know we were importing AIDS virus of course at the time.”

[2:23] Interviewer: “Oh, it was you who introduced AIDS virus of course into the country.”

Female interviewer: “Now we know”

Interviewer: “This is the real story”

Female interviewer: “It came late”

Male Interviewer 2: “What Merck wont do to develop a vaccine.”

Female interviewer: “Yeah right”

[2:39] Hilleman:  So what he did, he brought in, I mean we brought in those monkeys. Now we had those, and this was the solution. Because those monkeys didn’t have the wild viruses but we had all of these…

Interviewer: But, wait, Why didn’t the Greens have the wild virus’s since they came from Africa.

[2:55] Hilleman:  Because they weren’t, well they weren’t, they weren’t being infected in these group holding things with all the other 40 different viruses.

CENSORED INTERVIEW scrolls across the screen

Interviewer: But they had the ones they brought from the Jungle though.

[3:04] Hilleman: Yeah, they had those, but they were relatively few. What you do is  you have a gang housing, your gonna have an epidemic transmission of infection in a confined space.”

Interviewer:“Oh is that the problem.” said quietly said in a moment of realisation.

[3:16] Hilleman: “So anyway, the Greens came in, and now we had these and then, were taking our seed-stocks to clean them up and, God, now I’m discovering new viruses, so I said, Judas priest(?). Well I got an invitation from the Sister Kenney foundation you know which was the opposing foundation and I was the live virus, yeah, they had been jumped on Sabins {Dr. Sabin} bandwaggon. And then asked me to come down and give a talk. but uh at the Sister Kenney foundation meeting and I said (and it was an  international meeting)  ‘God, what am I going to talk about? I know what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna talk about the detection of non detectable viruses as a topic.”

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All vaccines contain foreign DNA, RNA and proteins that may promote allergies and autoimmune diseases from bacteria, viruses, fungi, yeast, bovine fetal serum, monkey kidney tissues, toxic metals mercury and aluminium, MSG and corpse preservatives formaldehyde and formalin. Also footage showing University of Pittsburgh. Virus Research Laboratory. DR. JONAS E. SALK

[4:03] Dr. Albert Sabin, Polio Vaccine Pioneer: “There were those who didn’t want a live virus vax(vaccine)(?) Concentrate, national foundation for Infantile paralysis, concentrated all its effots on getting  more and more people to use the killed virus vaccine while they were supporting me for research of the live virus vax.

CENSORED INTERVIEW scrolls across the screen.

[4:22] Hilleman: So now I gotta have something you know that’s gonna attract attention, so I thought gee that damn SV40, I mean that damn vacculating agent that we have…”

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“Vacculating viruses” cause cancer

Hilleman continues: “…I’m gonna just going to pick that particular one. That virus has got to be in vaccines. And uh, its gonna be in the Sabins vaccine so I quick gone(?) and tested it. Sure enough it was in there. And..”

Interviewer: I’ll be damned.

Hilleman: “So now uh, so I go ahead and uh..”

Interviewer: “So you just took stocks of Sabins vaccine of the shelf here at Merck.?”

Hilleman: Yeah well, it had been made at Mer.., it was made at Merck.”

Interviewer: You were making it for Sabin at this point?

Hilleman: Yeah, it was made before I came”

Interviewer: Yeah, but at this point Sabin is still just doing these massive field trials”

Hilleman: Um huh (agreeing)

Interviewer: OK

Hilleman: “In Russia and so forth so I go down…”

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Initially millions of Russians, later millions of Americans, were poisoned with cancer virus laced polio vaccines, scrolled across the screen.

Hilleman: “…I talked about the um, detection of non detectible viruses, and I told Albert, I said listen Albert, I said ‘you know, you and I are good friends but I said, I’m gonna go down there and you’re gonna get upset. I’m gonna talk about a virus that’s in your vaccine, now you’re gonna get rid of the virus, don’t worry about it, you gonna get rid of it, but um, um, so of course Albert was very upset with me.”

[5:47] Interviewer: “What did he say”

5:48 Hilleman: Well he said basically that this, this is just another obfuscation that is going to upset vaccines. and I said ‘well you know your absolutely right but I said We have a new era here, we have a new era of a detection, and the important thing is to get rid of these viruses.'”

Interviewer: “Why would he call it an obfuscation if it was a virus that was contaminating the vaccine?”

Scroll across the screen  during the next part from Hilleman:

40 different viruses in these vaccines…Not all inactivated, scrolled across the screen.

[6:07] Hilleman: “Well No, because we, well there are 40 different viruses in these vaccines anyway that were inactivating, and uh,”

Interviewer: “But you weren’t inactivating the, his {Sabins} though.”

[6:18] Hilleman: “That’s correct, No that’s right, but yellow fever vaccine had leukemia virus in it, and you know, this in the days of very crude science. So anyway I went down and talked to him and Albert said well “Why are you concerned about it?” I said, well, I’ll tell you want I said, I have a feeling in my bones that this virus is different I, I don’t know why to tell you this but I’ve been around viruses(?) a long time, I just think this virus may have some long term effects.

Interviewer: um huh (in agreement)

Hilleman: and he {Sabin} said ‘what’?… {Inaudable but Hilleman’s answer to Sabin that follows is very clear…} Cancer”

Interviewer: I love it. Go ahead.  {!??!??}

Scroll across the screen  during the next part from Hilleman:

This initiated the global cancer pandemic more than anything else, scrolls across the screen.

Hilleman: And Albert said uh, “No”. I said, “Albert” I said. “I, you’ll probably think I’m nuts, but I just have that feeling. Well in the meantime we had taken this virus and had put it into monk, {corrected} into hamsters. So we had this meeting and that was sort of a topic of the day, and the jokes that were going on was, ‘gee We would win the Olympics because uh, the Russians would all be loaded down with tumours.

Laughter {!??!??}

Hilleman: “This is where the vaccine was being tested. This was {inaudible}..”

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Original soundtrack. Laughter not added.

Interviewer: Yeah right, right (in agreement)

Hilleman: So uh, and it really destroyed the meeting, (inaudible} you know it was a big one around(?)

Intervirewer: Yeah right (in agreement)

Hilleman: “and so it was sort of a topic. Anyway.”

Intervirewer: “Was this the Cancer society meeting in New York, uh, Cancer society?”

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Dr. Shorter is currently Chairman of the Dept of Medical History at the University of Toronto scrolled across the screen.

Hilleman: “No no, it was the uh,Sister Kenning(?) meeting one”

Interviewer: “Oh sister Kenney”

Hilleman: “And Del-Becko got up and he said um, that he foresaw problems with these kinds of agents”

Interviewer: “Why didn’t this get out in the press”

Hilleman: “Well I guess it did, I don’t remember we had no press release. Obviously you don’t go out. This is a scientific affair within the scientific community.”

News paper headline:

Salk Vaccine Hailes as Medical Victory.

Subheading: End of Dread, Crippling Disease Within the space of Two Years Now seen a possibility.

Main text: No Fatalities Reported Among 460,000 Children Who Got Three Shots Last Year.

Bold text: First and Second Graders (About 250,000) to Get Bay State Injections


Commentary: An historic victory over a dread disease had dramatically unfolded at the University of Michigan. Here Scientists usher in  a new medical age with the monumental report to prove the Salk vaccine against crippling polio, to be a sensational success. Its a day of triumph for forty year old Dr. Jonas E. Salk, the developer of the vaccine. He arrives with Bazel O’Connor, head of the national foundation for Infantile Paralysis which financed the tests. Hundreds of reporters and scientists from all over the nation gather for the momentous announcement.

[8:45] Dr. Albert Sabin:  “It was too much of a show. There was too much Hollywood. There was too much exaggeration. And the impression in 1957 that was, no, in 1954 that was given was that the problem had been solved, that Polio had been conquered.”

Scroll across the screen:

We knew it [SV40] was in our [vaccine culture] seed-stock.” Cancer Virus SV40

[9:02] Hilleman: “But anyway {inaudible} we knew [SV40] was in our seed-stock for making vaccine, scrolled across the screen, followed by “It was good science at the time”

Hilleman: “… and we know it  was in our  seed-stock for making vaccine, That virus you see is 1 in 10,000 particles, is not inactivated by formaldehyde. It was good science at the time because that was what you did. You didn’t worry about these wild viruses.”

Interviewer: “So you discovered it wasn’t being inactivated in the Salk vaccines?”

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Conflicting Interests: The Merck Drug Company received a lion’s share of the Nazi warchest at the time company president, George W. Merck, was America’s biological weapons industry director, scrolled across the screen.

Hilleman: “Right, so then, the next thing you know is, 3, 4 weeks after that, I found that there were tumours popping out on these hamsters.”

New presenter: “Despite AIDS and lukemia becoming suddenly pandemic from wild viruses, Hilleman said this was good science at that time.”

Dr. Hilleman died April 11, 2005.

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There are a few main issues.

1) Hilleman and the company he worked for was responsible for the introduction of HIV into the human population. Dr. Brian Martin gives a good support to this theory.

2) They are responsible for injecting people SV-40 a cancer inducing virus (sidenote this explains the large resistance to associating virus’s with cancer – a cause of cancer that finally became accepted approx 10 years ago)

3) They knew harmful substances were included in vaccines

4) They  failed to ensure they knew the entire contents of their vaccine

5) They failed to purify the active components of their vaccine for use.

6) They failed to ensure components of the vaccine had no negative effects.

7) They have failed to address and compensate the victims of their dash for cash.

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